<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">If sanctions were to come out after payment was received but before services are rendered, most providers would still not be able to provide the service.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s also likely that banks in question can no longer forward funds from Russia, even if it were still possible to provide a service. I’m not a lawyer and this is where you need one, but doing business at all in Russia is going to become close to impossible.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d be curious to know how much of Cogent’s decision was weighted by choosing not to connect Russian customers vs being legally forced to stop.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A third possibility is that Cogent’s Russian entity (if they have one) or their US one is refusing to install new state-mandated surveillance hardware or follow certain procedures such as FSB/NSA letters, etc.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:45 PM, David Conrad <<a href="mailto:drc@virtualized.org" class="">drc@virtualized.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Bryan Fields <<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net" class="">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 3/4/22 3:52 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I would argue they don't have much of a choice:<br class=""><br class="">"The economic sanctions put in place as a result of the invasion and the<br class="">increasingly uncertain security situation make it impossible for Cogent to<br class="">continue to provide you with service."<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">But Tier 1's don't pay for peering.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">As someone who once had to have lawyers argue (at different times) with the US Dept. of Treasury for (a) providing open source software deemed a munition internationally and (b) updating certain globally accessible lists of names and numbers for Internet use at no charge (under a US government contract no less): you do not have to receive money to be viewed as providing a service.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">-drc<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>