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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks very much for all the responses throughout the day. They are very helpful. Your (collective) answers triggered a couple follow-on questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router, do they maintain Internet access throughout a power outage (as long as their backup power solution works)? I.e., does the rest of the ISP network maintain service throughout
a power outage?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are the modems with backup power designed to operate for a specified period of time without power and if so, for how long and how was that duration identified?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If those with backup power do maintain Internet access during a power outage, do they lose that access if the power outage extends beyond a certain time? I.e., does the ISP network equipment go offline at some point in time due to batteries
being drained and not having power generation capabilities?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Scott<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces+standerson4=wisc.edu@nanog.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>richey.goldberg@gmail.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 12, 2022 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott T Anderson via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: home router battery backup<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At my last employer we installed lots of Adtrans at Car Dealerships, Hotels, and other SMBs. It was common for them to have a small UPS but 9 times out of 10 the UPS 2-3 times older than the life cycle of the battery and no one ever
knew that you could change the battery in them. So they usually just had a heavy power strip that was prone to failing after a power loss.<br>
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We did have the option to install a battery back up on the Adtran but it would have been useless because most of them didn’t have any kind of backup power for their PBXs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m pretty sure that my own power protection on my network gear and theater gear far exceeded the average end user’s remote offices.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-richey<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces+richey.goldberg=gmail.com@nanog.org">nanog-bounces+richey.goldberg=gmail.com@nanog.org</a>> on behalf of Andy Ringsmuth <<a href="mailto:andy@andyring.com">andy@andyring.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 1:16 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Scott T Anderson <<a href="mailto:standerson4@wisc.edu">standerson4@wisc.edu</a>>, Scott T Anderson via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: home router battery backup<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> On Jan 12, 2022, at 11:35 AM, Scott T Anderson via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi NANOG mailing list,<br>
> <br>
> I am a graduate student, currently conducting research on how power outages affect home Internet users. I know that the FCC has a regulation since 2015 (47 CFR Section 9.20) requiring ISPs to provide an option to voice customers to purchase a battery backup
for emergency voice services during power outages. As this is only an option and only applies to customers who subscribe to voice services, I was wondering if anyone had any insights on the prevalence of battery backup for home modem/routers? I.e., what percentage
of home users actually install a battery backup in their home modem/router or use an external UPS?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks.<br>
> Scott<br>
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Given that most people barely even know what their home router is, I suspect the percentage would be somewhere south of 1 percent. Outside of my home, I honestly cannot recall EVER seeing someone’s home using a battery backup for their internet infrastructure.<br>
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I personally do, but of course I (and probably everyone on this list) am by no means representative of the population at large in this particular area.<br>
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Andy Ringsmuth<br>
5609 Harding Drive<br>
Lincoln, NE 68521-5831<br>
(402) 304-0083<br>
<a href="mailto:andy@andyring.com">andy@andyring.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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