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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/22 2:37 PM, Ahmed elBornou
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<div dir="ltr">Do we know if there are common reasons why these
power outages are on the rise across different states and if
this is expected to continue ? <br>
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<p>Climate change. We're living it. That and PG&E is corrupt. <br>
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<p>Mike<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:43
AM Michael Thomas <<a href="mailto:mike@mtcc.com"
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On 1/12/22 11:25 AM, Fred Baker wrote:<br>
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>> On Jan 12, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via
NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>>
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>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:18 AM Andy Ringsmuth <<a
href="mailto:andy@andyring.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">andy@andyring.com</a>>
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>> Given that most people barely even know what their
home router is, I suspect the percentage would be somewhere
south of 1 percent. Outside of my home, I honestly cannot
recall EVER seeing someone’s home using a battery backup for
their internet infrastructure.<br>
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>> Same here. The only people I've seen that have
battery backups for their home routers are fellow geeks. I
even bought one and shipped it to my ~70-year-old mother...and
she just doesn't want to install it. "Too complicated".<br>
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>> I personally do, but of course I (and probably
everyone on this list) am by no means representative of the
population at large in this particular area.<br>
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>> Same. My home office has 3 Cyberpower 2500 VA
double-conversion UPS units backed by Champion transfer
switches. Power goes out, and ~45 seconds later I'm running
on generator power.<br>
>> My local ISP runs out of power well before I do.
Thankfully there's Starlink.<br>
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>> Short of an asteroid hitting my office, it's highly
unlikely I'll ever be offline. ;)<br>
> In my case (California, home of SCE and PG&E), we
have been notified by our electrical grid operators that power
can go down at any time, for any reason, and any duration. I
have just moved, so I am speaking in a historical context and
future plans, but we have solar electricity as well and have a
battery in the home that in effect backs up part of the house.
We don't back up the Internet service, because frankly if
power is down in the grid I'm not sure my favorite router is
all that important, in addition to the considerations already
mentioned. But power can and does go down - even without
asteroids.<br>
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We just installed a battery too, but it will probably only
last ~1 day <br>
and much less than that in winter. We're in the process of
looking at a <br>
generator that interfaces directly with the inverter so that
it handles <br>
the grid, the battery, the solar and the generator along with
the <br>
transfer switch. It's gone from being the occasional nuisance
in the <br>
winter to all year long these days. Our power outage over the
holidays <br>
lasted 12 days. This isn't just a rural problem anymore in
California, <br>
it's a pretty much everywhere problem now.<br>
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Mike<br>
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