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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you!! Some of those tools are proving
<i>much</i> more useful for me than fbtracert. (In particular, traceflow has been updated recently enough that it “just works” in common environments that have Python3. And while it may not be perfect, it’s good enough to show what I need.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(who apparently has lost the skills needed to Google usefully, in his decrepitude)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 25, 2021 10:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca>; nanog <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: anyone use fbtracert successfully?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What about some other options?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://paris-traceroute.net/">https://paris-traceroute.net/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://dublin-traceroute.net/">https://dublin-traceroute.net/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://github.com/rucarrol/traceflow">https://github.com/rucarrol/traceflow</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 9:54 AM Thomas Scott <<a href="mailto:mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com">mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Ha, my apologies, I thought I was writing this for a Linux User Group, not a NOG. Ignore my simplistic explanations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com" target="_blank">mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:47 PM Thomas Scott <<a href="mailto:mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com" target="_blank">mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have used it successfully in a test environment that I was using ECMP in. Most of the public networks that I've worked with don't use ECMP as often as other methods for steering
traffic (LAGs, BGP MEDs, etc). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What I have seen it fantastically useful for was troubleshooting a transit provider, or for when they were congested or had a flapping core link. Granted I
<i>think </i>it's still subject to ICMP deprioritization (most SP's use it prodigiously), and most MPLS cores don't decrement TTL, but it was still useful to be able to show them "no, at this IP, I
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:23 PM Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca" target="_blank">athompson@merlin.mb.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The tool fbtracert (<a href="http://github.com/facebookarchive/fbtracert" target="_blank">http://github.com/facebookarchive/fbtracert</a>) was mentioned here recently as a way to
get visibility into multi-pathing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Supposedly Facebook uses this tool internally, but… that doesn’t help much.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’ve tried it on 4 different platforms/OSes (WSL Ubuntu; RedHat; Debian; OpenBSD), and versions of Go (v1.10 through v1.16), in three very different environments (on-prem public
IP; on-prem NAT’d; cloud public IP), and I’ve yet to see it produce any meaningful output – each run/iteration/thread only detects one, single, hop out of the entire chain of routers, making it less than useful. Granted, that’s not a full regression test
by any means, but if anyone here has ever used it successfully, could you please let me know what sort of environment you ran it in/on?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Consultant, Infrastructure Services<br>
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100 - 135 Innovation Drive<br>
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8<br>
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)<br>
<a href="mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca" target="_blank">athompson@merlin.mb.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.merlin.mb.ca/" target="_blank">www.merlin.mb.ca</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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