<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Uh, that is what is being said… The user originated the call, so the CDN shouldn’t have to pay the user’s ISP to<div class="">deliver the replies to the users’ requests.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 21, 2021, at 11:28 , Fred Baker <<a href="mailto:fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com" class="">fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">I’m not sure I disagree, but let throw in a point of consideration. Historically, as you note, the caller pays the toll. However, the caller also CHOSE to call, even though the called party might find the call irritating. With a CDN, the network is out there hoping to be called, and the user makes that choice, “calling” the CDN. Could it not be accurately said that the user originated the “call”?<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways...</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Matthew Walster <<a href="mailto:matthew@walster.org" class="">matthew@walster.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Seems pretty disingenuous to now say the called party has to pay as well, in stark contrast to decades of precedent with their telephone product, just because their customers are actually using what they were sold.</span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>