<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 19:53, Jared Brown <<a href="mailto:nanog-isp@mail.com">nanog-isp@mail.com</a>> wrote: </span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
“When the rules were created 25 years ago I don’t think anyone would have envisioned four or five companies would be driving 80% of the traffic on the world’s internet. They aren’t making a contribution to the services they are being carried on; that doesn’t feel right.”<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In the UK, for regular residential geographic telephone numbers, only one side pays for the call -- the calling party, the one that dials the number.</div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The user initiates the connection to the CDN. The user is paying for a level of access to the internet via the BT network, with varying tiers of speed at particular costs. They are advertised as "<span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Unlimited </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">broadband</span><span class="gmail_default">: </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">With no data caps or download limits,</span><span class="gmail_default"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">you can do as much as you like online." on their website. Many CDNs bring the data closer to the customer, either embedded within their network, or meeting at various PoPs/IXPs around the country.</span></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Seems pretty disingenuous to now say the called party has to pay as well, in stark contrast to decades of precedent with their telephone product, just because their customers are actually using what they were sold.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></span>All in all, this raises an interesting question. Is British Telecom running their networks so hot, that just keeping the lights on requires capacity upgrades or are they just looking for freebies?</blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Taking advantage of a situation and jumping on the bandwagon, some would say. After decades of chronic underinvestment in UK broadband, they're finally starting to offer competitive products, and aren't used to having to pay for it -- though as it happens, it would appear the public purse is picking up the costs anyway: <a href="https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/08/govs-1bn-helps-493600-uk-premises-get-gigabit-broadband.html">https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/08/govs-1bn-helps-493600-uk-premises-get-gigabit-broadband.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">M</span></div></div></div>