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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/1/21 3:17 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:<br>
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Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors
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<div>And everytime I see an email thread about the
difference or not between monitors and TVs I'm taken over by
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<div>I have a **monitor**.... I purchased it from Dell, and it
clearly said "monitor" on the box, it identifies itself
somewhere display settings as a "monitor", and even says
"monitor" in small letters somewhere on the back.... It's a
MONITOR dagnabit... but, for some unfathomable reason it has
some tiny little speakers in it, and every time I connect it
via HDMI to my Mac laptop, the machine decides to
completely ignore the fact that I've told it that I want to
use a specific sound output, and starts playing all audio
though the monitors speakers. Oh, and because this is HDMI,
and Apple apparently follows the HDMI spec, the Mac volume
controls won't work ("This device has no audio level
control" or something...) and I have to go scrummaging
around in some horrendous on-screen monitor menu to make it
less obnoxiously loud...</div>
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<p>Huh. I have a Mac and my monitor was definitely marketed as a TV
and all I do is just turn the volume down on the TV remote and
don't have issues with the Mac not honoring where its audio output
is. So there is obviously something different between our two
setups. It does like you say not have the ability to control
volume which I don't understand because my chromecast can do that
and its only cable is HDMI so obviously the Mac can too.<br>
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<div>All attempts to get this less stupid result in Apple
pointing at the HDMI spec and saying that if a device
advertises audio capabilites they list it as an output
device, and Dell pointing out that they simply advirtise the
fact that the device has a speaker, and, well, shrug, not
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<p>I can understand why they have speakers and all of that even if
it's just a monitor because it's probably cheaper to just have one
model to manufacture and just rebrand it. There was some device --
gad I want to think it was an old DEC terminal server -- that just
filled in the serial ports with glue or something so that you
couldn't use them. That was pretty shameless.</p>
<p>Mike<br>
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