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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 6:15 PM
Randy Bush <<a href="mailto:randy@psg.com">randy@psg.com</a>>
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used to get dissidents, activists, and journos killed<br>
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at&t, comcast, ... zayo, please tell us you do not do this.</p>
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<p>After the SF room thing a decade ago (or whatever timeframe it
was) we have to know AT&T is doing it.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/25/21 11:01 PM, jim deleskie
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<div dir="ltr">:: I think letting any of those people think ToR is
safe as being a much bigger risk.</div>
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<p>Especially since ToR was developed by the US Navy to support
spying operations.<br>
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<div>:: ...Team Cymru...and believe them to be the good guys, <br>
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<p>Agreed and I have thought so for a very long time, but sadly this
casts a shadow over my interpretation of their work. Hopefully,
someone there clarifies and we can go on knowing they're one of
the (few) good guys.<br>
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<p>scott<br>
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