<div dir="ltr">Nothing will change immediately.  Having said that, I do expect that we will see much more effective enforcement.  The investigations will come from the ITG (Industry Traceback Group) with enforcement coming from FCC or FTC depending on the actual offense.  The problem has been that it's been far too easy for robocalling companies to hop from one telecom provider to another.  Now there are requirements around "know your customer" that telecom operators have to follow and the ITG will have a much better chance of figuring out who the bad actor is than they have in the past.<div><br></div><div>Longer term I worry that this will lead to more attacks on PBXs, eSBCs, and VOIP handsets to be able to call either from that endpoint itself or be able to use the SIP credentials.  The market for robocalls will certainly not disappear.</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Scott Helms<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 1:07 PM Michael Thomas <<a href="mailto:mike@mtcc.com">mike@mtcc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Nothing has changed for me either. Color me surprised. The real
      proof will be to see if the originating domain can be determined,
      and whether the receiving domain does anything about it.</p>
    <p>Mike<br>
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    <div>On 7/9/21 9:42 AM, Brandon Svec via
      NANOG wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">I’m getting the same or more, but did anyone
        really expect they would stop July 1? It will take time for
        complaints to be tracked down and operators to take actions,
        right?</div>
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      <div dir="auto">Brandon</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:49
            AM Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>
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            <div dir="ltr">Subjectively speaking, I'm still getting the
              same amount of spam phone calls.
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              <div>I'm certainly getting a lot more spam SMS to my
                cell.  Almost all of them in my entire life starting
                July 1...</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at
                9:40 AM Jeff Shultz <<a href="mailto:jeffshultz@sctcweb.com" target="_blank">jeffshultz@sctcweb.com</a>>
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                  <div>All I know is that I am getting a lot fewer bogus
                    calls on my cell phone than I was this time last
                    month. <br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9,
                        2021, 06:17 Ryan Finnesey via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>>
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                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This should
                        help with Robo calls a lot.<br>
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                        -----Original Message-----<br>
                        From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan.finnesey=<a href="mailto:conovence.com@nanog.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">conovence.com@nanog.org</a>>
                        On Behalf Of Sean Donelan<br>
                        Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:31 PM<br>
                        To: <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
                        Subject: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect
                        today (June 30 2021)<br>
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                        <br>
                        STIR/SHAKEN Broadly Implemented Starting Today <a href="https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today</a><br>
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                        WASHINGTON, June 30, 2021—FCC Acting Chairwoman
                        Jessica Rosenworcel today announced that the
                        largest voice service providers are now using
                        STIR/SHAKEN caller ID authentication standards
                        in their IP networks, in accordance with the
                        deadline set by the FCC. This widespread
                        implementation helps protect consumers against
                        malicious spoofed robocalls and helps law
                        enforcement track bad actors. The STIR/SHAKEN
                        standards serve as a common digital language
                        used by phone networks, allowing valid
                        information to pass from provider to provider
                        which, among other things, informs blocking
                        tools of possible suspicious calls.</blockquote>
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      <div dir="ltr">Brandon Svec <br>
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