<div dir="ltr">Nothing will change immediately. Having said that, I do expect that we will see much more effective enforcement. The investigations will come from the ITG (Industry Traceback Group) with enforcement coming from FCC or FTC depending on the actual offense. The problem has been that it's been far too easy for robocalling companies to hop from one telecom provider to another. Now there are requirements around "know your customer" that telecom operators have to follow and the ITG will have a much better chance of figuring out who the bad actor is than they have in the past.<div><br></div><div>Longer term I worry that this will lead to more attacks on PBXs, eSBCs, and VOIP handsets to be able to call either from that endpoint itself or be able to use the SIP credentials. The market for robocalls will certainly not disappear.</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Scott Helms<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 1:07 PM Michael Thomas <<a href="mailto:mike@mtcc.com">mike@mtcc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Nothing has changed for me either. Color me surprised. The real
proof will be to see if the originating domain can be determined,
and whether the receiving domain does anything about it.</p>
<p>Mike<br>
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<div>On 7/9/21 9:42 AM, Brandon Svec via
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<div dir="auto">I’m getting the same or more, but did anyone
really expect they would stop July 1? It will take time for
complaints to be tracked down and operators to take actions,
right?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:49
AM Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Subjectively speaking, I'm still getting the
same amount of spam phone calls.
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<div>I'm certainly getting a lot more spam SMS to my
cell. Almost all of them in my entire life starting
July 1...</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at
9:40 AM Jeff Shultz <<a href="mailto:jeffshultz@sctcweb.com" target="_blank">jeffshultz@sctcweb.com</a>>
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<div>All I know is that I am getting a lot fewer bogus
calls on my cell phone than I was this time last
month. <br>
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2021, 06:17 Ryan Finnesey via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>>
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help with Robo calls a lot.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan.finnesey=<a href="mailto:conovence.com@nanog.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">conovence.com@nanog.org</a>>
On Behalf Of Sean Donelan<br>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:31 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
Subject: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect
today (June 30 2021)<br>
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STIR/SHAKEN Broadly Implemented Starting Today <a href="https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today</a><br>
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WASHINGTON, June 30, 2021—FCC Acting Chairwoman
Jessica Rosenworcel today announced that the
largest voice service providers are now using
STIR/SHAKEN caller ID authentication standards
in their IP networks, in accordance with the
deadline set by the FCC. This widespread
implementation helps protect consumers against
malicious spoofed robocalls and helps law
enforcement track bad actors. The STIR/SHAKEN
standards serve as a common digital language
used by phone networks, allowing valid
information to pass from provider to provider
which, among other things, informs blocking
tools of possible suspicious calls.</blockquote>
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