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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/1/21 1:05 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/1/21 3:53 PM, Keith Medcalf
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        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">And this is why this problem will not be solved.  The "open relay" is making money from processing the calls, and the end carrier is making money for terminating them.  Until fine(s) -- hopefully millions of them, one for each improperly terminated call, together with jail time for the CEO of the company for "conspiracy to commit fraud" --  and EACH of the fines is EQUAL OR GREATER than the total yearly worldwide REVENUE of that end carrier, they will not have any impetus to "fix" the problem.</pre>
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      <p>How about 47 CFR 64.1200(k)(4)?</p>
      <p class="psection-2"><span class="enumxml" id="k_4">(4)</span> A
        provider may block voice calls or cease to accept traffic from
        an originating or <a aria-label="Definitions - intermediate
          provider" class="colorbox-load definedterm"
href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=643618fc7955a6798d0c07a136e40fef&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200"
          moz-do-not-send="true">intermediate provider</a> without
        liability under the Communications Act or the Commission's rules
        where the originating or <a aria-label="Definitions -
          intermediate provider" class="colorbox-load definedterm"
href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=643618fc7955a6798d0c07a136e40fef&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200"
          moz-do-not-send="true">intermediate provider</a>, when
        notified by the Commission, fails to effectively mitigate
        illegal traffic within 48 hours or fails to implement effective
        measures to prevent new and renewing <a aria-label="Definitions
          - customers" class="colorbox-load definedterm"
href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=53789aafb18c69f4ad1df8f063611a51&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200"
          moz-do-not-send="true">customers</a> from using its network to
        originate illegal calls. Prior to initiating blocking, the
        provider shall provide the Commission with notice and a brief
        summary of the basis for its determination that the originating
        or <a aria-label="Definitions - intermediate provider"
          class="colorbox-load definedterm"
href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=643618fc7955a6798d0c07a136e40fef&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200"
          moz-do-not-send="true">intermediate provider</a> meets one or
        more of these two conditions for blocking. </p>
      <p>ie: "You're not really a phone company anymore, says the rest
        of the PSTN"</p>
      <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/64.1200"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/64.1200</a><br>
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    <p>Those who fail to understand the Usenet Death Penalty are doomed
      to (not) repeat it.</p>
    <p>Mike<br>
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