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<p>Another trick I've used is to use a separate number and forward
the old number to the new. Set the caller ID to the original
number, test 911. You may want to run the 911 with the new number
instead though. With this setup, you can try porting again down
the road, but at least you have a solution in the current time.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog-bounces+ray=oit.co@nanog.org"><nanog-bounces+ray=oit.co@nanog.org></a> on behalf of Peter
Beckman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:beckman@angryox.com"><beckman@angryox.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 10, 2021 12:33:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Hammett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net"><nanog@ics-il.net></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> NANOG Operators' Group <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"><nanog@nanog.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> EXTERNAL: Re: Can't Port from a Particular
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<br>
I had this happen to me recently.<br>
<br>
Customer came in with a number that had very little
coverage, but our<br>
carrier had a 1,000 block in the same ratecenter, so we
held out some hope.<br>
<br>
Once we dug into it, the 1,000 block was designated for a
different<br>
"service offering" with the carrier. They were not
offering portability in<br>
that Ratecenter, despite having coverage, or even hardware
or leased<br>
hardware there.<br>
<br>
So we had to send the customer off. There really were only
about 5 carriers<br>
serving the Ratecenter, 3 of them wireless, one very
local, and our<br>
carrier.<br>
<br>
If your carrier decides not to port a number, even when
they seem to be<br>
present in the ratecenter in question, they are not
required by any law or<br>
rule to port, AFAIK.<br>
<br>
If a company will port in, the other carrier must (IMHO)
port out. If not,<br>
then you can't port. There may be some subtleties to that,
but this is my<br>
understanding.<br>
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Fun!<br>
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Beckman<br>
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
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> I first asked on a list much more narrow in scope,
but failing to get<br>
> sufficient data points, I've expanded my scope.<br>
><br>
> Assuming the number isn't held by someone exempt from
porting, what would<br>
> prevent someone from being able to port a number from
a particular rate<br>
> center in a LATA they have coverage in?<br>
><br>
> We picked up a particular carrier for our out-of-area
needs and the first<br>
> thing we throw at them in a LATA we know they have
coverage in, they<br>
> can't do. They have a non-useful reason why. It
doesn't appear to have<br>
> moved to a state where they contacted the losing
provider as the response<br>
> was very fast, so my provider rejected the port, not
theirs.<br>
><br>
> When I started at this company (where we do our own
porting), I made sure<br>
> to port a bunch of numbers from all over our LATA to
see what would<br>
> happen. All successful. That seems to indicate that
it doesn't matter<br>
> which xLEC or tandem currently serves that number, it
can move elsewhere.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----<br>
> Mike Hammett<br>
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