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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PS, I don’t believe I mentioned the Nokia’s would meet any particular price point, just that they have some transport boxes that have a very good price/performance/port density (7210/7250). YMMV depending on your supplier, quantities and feature requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 June 2021 8:24 am<br><b>To:</b> 'Colton Conor' <colton.conor@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'NANOG' <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Well I can’t talk to what discounts are available, you would need to get that direct off Nokia. The 7210 SAS-S 24F4SFP+ is pretty affordable even with the stand alone MPLS licence but it makes a significant difference where you source Nokia devices and how many you buy. They seem to be kind of like Boeing or Airbus, the list price is X but the airlines never pay list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Colton Conor <<a href="mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com">colton.conor@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 June 2021 8:03 am<br><b>To:</b> Tony Wicks <<a href="mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz">tony@wicks.co.nz</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tony,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I reached out to a couple of people, and they mentioned that there is nothing in the 7210 line that is around $1,000, which is what a Ciena 3924 costs for example. What am I missing? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 12:14 PM Tony Wicks <<a href="mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz" target="_blank">tony@wicks.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>7210-sas-s or 7210-sas-sx is the low cost 24/48x1 4x10G option. These are very affordable and reliable MPLS transport devices. You’ll need to contact your local Nokia rep for pricing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Colton Conor <<a href="mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com" target="_blank">colton.conor@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:03 am<br><b>To:</b> Tony Wicks <<a href="mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz" target="_blank">tony@wicks.co.nz</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks, I wasn't aware of this model. This would compete with the ACX710 based on the specs (actually have a bit more ports). I guess I will have to reach out, but price wise where does this box come in? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What is Nokia's low cost NID that has at least 4 10G ports? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:49 AM Tony Wicks <<a href="mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz" target="_blank">tony@wicks.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Nokia 7250-ixr-e covers exactly the port density and price range you are looking for. 24x1/10, 8x10/25 and 2x100G with 300G total capacity.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> NANOG <nanog-bounces+tony=<a href="mailto:wicks.co.nz@nanog.org" target="_blank">wicks.co.nz@nanog.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Colton Conor<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 27 May 2021 4:39 am<br><b>To:</b> NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We have used Juniper's ACX line primarily, but there is a big gap in their product line. The ACX2200 has only two 10G ports. The next jump up from there is the ACX710 with 24 10G ports. They have nothing in between that has 4-12 10G ports. Not to mention, Juniper is very proud price wise. We are looking for cost efficient 10G NIDs with at least 4 10G ports on them and aggregation boxes with at least 12 10G ports on them with 25g/100G uplinks. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>