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<p class="MsoNormal">Called Cascaded Router configuration on The POS router they gave .. their support and their support “Supervisor” could not make it work. I just did .. FUN.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer<br>
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Link Technologies, Inc</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"> -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Create Wireless Coverage’s with
</span><a href="www.towercoverage.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">www.towercoverage.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Alex Conner <hello@codatory.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 10, 2021 2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dennis Burgess <dmburgess@linktechs.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> TJ Trout <tj@pcguys.us>; nanog@nanog.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AT&T Fiber Line / NOT MIS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yep; but even IP Passthrough, routed subnet, etc. all count as NAT sessions against the internal NAT table.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BTW, that's the feature you're looking for - routed subnet. That will pass your /26 to another network device over an RFC1918 subnet. The steps depend on what particular gateway hardware they have, but a quick Google of the gateway model
and "routed subnet" should get you to the right spot. Assuming of course the other service limitations aren't a dealbreaker.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 2:54 PM Dennis Burgess <<a href="mailto:dmburgess@linktechs.net">dmburgess@linktechs.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Ya not wishing to do NAT...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sent from mobile device..
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Alex Conner <<a href="mailto:hello@codatory.com" target="_blank">hello@codatory.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 10, 2021 1:49:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TJ Trout <<a href="mailto:tj@pcguys.us" target="_blank">tj@pcguys.us</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dennis Burgess <<a href="mailto:dmburgess@linktechs.net" target="_blank">dmburgess@linktechs.net</a>>;
<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a> <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AT&T Fiber Line / NOT MIS</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bonus points, the small business fiber has extremely limited NAT session limits (depends on hardware, but not greater than 16,000 sessions) and
<i>everything </i>counts. Cold loading CNN.com (an AT&T company) in a default config without an adblocker will use close to 3000, which will saturate and cause errors on some of their gateway hardware (NVG595). If you want to use it for any serious purpose,
stick a tunnel out to a real connection.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 2:43 PM TJ Trout <<a href="mailto:tj@pcguys.us" target="_blank">tj@pcguys.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah not going to happen on U-verse<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:32 AM Dennis Burgess <<a href="mailto:dmburgess@linktechs.net" target="_blank">dmburgess@linktechs.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Guess their broadband stuff</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">☹</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis Burgess</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Link Technologies, Inc</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"> -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Office</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">: 314-735-0270 Website:
</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.linktechs.net/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">http://www.linktechs.net</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Create Wireless Coverage’s with </span>
<span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.towercoverage.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">www.towercoverage.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Need MikroTik Cloud Management: <a href="https://cloud.linktechs.net" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#0563C1">https://cloud.linktechs.net</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b>From:</b> TJ Trout <<a href="mailto:tj@pcguys.us" target="_blank">tj@pcguys.us</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 10, 2021 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dennis Burgess <<a href="mailto:dmburgess@linktechs.net" target="_blank">dmburgess@linktechs.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AT&T Fiber Line / NOT MIS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>call back, i dont think that's accurate. What is the specific product?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 7:25 AM Dennis Burgess <<a href="mailto:dmburgess@linktechs.net" target="_blank">dmburgess@linktechs.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have a ATT fiber line for a customer that has a 300/300 circuit, but its not a MIS they are telling me we cannot route a /26 (they have allocated) to my device behind it.
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">☹</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Any options? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis Burgess</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
Mikrotik : </span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Security Engineer, Enterprise Wireless Engineer</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hurricane Electric: </span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">IPv6 Sage Level</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Cambium: </span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">ePMP</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Link Technologies, Inc</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"> -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Office</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">: 314-735-0270 Website:
</span><a href="http://www.linktechs.net/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">http://www.linktechs.net</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Create Wireless Coverage’s with </span>
<a href="http://www.towercoverage.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">www.towercoverage.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Need MikroTik Cloud Management: <a href="https://cloud.linktechs.net" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#0563C1">https://cloud.linktechs.net</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">How did we do today?</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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