<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>This wouldn't be for the purposes of entering a new market, but an opportunity to shed your high-cost legacy infrastructure and provide better service in existing markets.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Getting the incumbents on-board certainly isn't a requirement. The post I was replying to favored a future where all providers converged on one infrastructure. I was saying that wasn't likely to happen.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"Harry McGregor" <hmcgregor@biggeeks.org>, "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 2, 2021 3:46:16 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The government entities that I've known of building middle or last-mile fiber infrastructure have reported that none of the incumbent operators wanted anything to do with it. Not during planning, construction, post-construction, etc.<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If your whole model is monopoly services (att/verizon/cabletown) why would you bother entering a service area where you might have competition? (and an operational model which is radically different from your other properties)</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think it's necessary for the 'incumbent telco' (or cabletown) to need/want to participate with the municipal dark-fiber-equivalent deployments, is it?</div><div>All that's needed is a couple (one to start) local 'isp' that can service what is effectively a light-duty L1 and ethernet plant, and customer service(s). </div></div></div>
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