<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>If we keep going down this road, we'll be siphoning up grant dollars away from communities that actually need it, sending it to communities with fake needs. There are a lot of parallels to other parts of society with people telling others what they should need, but not reflected in reality.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>"Why would you want to?"</div><div><br></div><div>There aren't unlimited resources. Allocate them properly.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Brandon Price" <PriceB@SherwoodOregon.gov><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Lyon" <mike.lyon@gmail.com>, "Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE" <lb@6by7.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 28, 2021 6:08:35 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s not about being lucky, it’s that the grant dollars are being siphoned up by folks providing a mediocre product. There are fiber providers that can make a rural build pencil if they were eligible. The point of the definition is to
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<p class="MsoNormal">To your previous question about usage, I took a quick look at one of my smaller GPON shelves and most times the download to upload ratio is roughly 4 to 1 across all the subs on that shelf. That’s a healthy upload by itself, but there
was a 5 minute datapoint just now where the upload spiked to about triple the download rate. Someone did a huge upload, and got it over and done with quick. Yes people can live with less bandwidth, but why would you want to?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The feedback I hear from more and more customers with regards to upload is teleconferencing for work/school and IOT type devices uploading to the cloud….
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 3:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <lb@6by7.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brandon Price <PriceB@SherwoodOregon.gov>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Fiber is cool and all, but there is a HUUUUUGE amount of areas that aren't lucky enough to have fiber and wireless is the only way to go.
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, we up the minimum to 100 Mbps just because some areas are lucky enough to have fiber?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:38 PM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <<a href="mailto:lb@6by7.net" target="_blank">lb@6by7.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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> On May 28, 2021, at 3:29 PM, Mike Lyon <<a href="mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com" target="_blank">mike.lyon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Curious, when you look at the usage on those 100/100 plans. What are they actually using? If they aren't actually using it, then why up the minimum?<br>
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Simple, our time isn’t free. The less time humanity itself spends waiting on downloads, the more we spend loving, celebrating, embracing, playing and exploring.<br>
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Really, fiber is fiber, it’s just about optics from there, and those are cheap.<br>
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Relatively speaking.<br>
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(And ignoring WISPSs and rural economies of scale but I digress.)<br>
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8 billion fiber drops for 8 billion people.<br>
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That’s what it will take to wire the future. 32k res AR environments; 1TB video games, distance learning via implant, full self driving cars - Qualcomm itself says bandwidth is to grow 1000-fold in the next 9 years alone.<br>
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Are you ready?<br>
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Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE<br>
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC <br>
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