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What is the rationale for changing it? Have the applications
changed? Has our use of them changed?<br>
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Yes, somewhat. There's been, and will continue to be, more cord
cutting of non-IP broadcast video services towards unicast IP
streaming services. However, video codecs have gotten more efficient
so that what used to require an 8Mbps stream now fits in a 4Mbps
package. I see more folks video conferencing (whether that be for
personal or business use), which relies more heavily on upload than
most applications. Folks with crummy WiFi or slower upload speeds
have become the have-nots in this remote work era. The goal of
subsidies is to lift the base/minimum so that there are fewer
have-nots. Set the qualifier too low and you'll end up providing
assistance where it doesn't accomplish this goal. Raise the
qualifier too high too soon and you run the risk of excluding
assistance where it could help.<br>
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I'm content with 10Mbps down per person in the household (a quick
rule of thumb I've been using for a few years). If a common
household has 4 people, 40Mbps download seems sufficient for today's
typical usage (this assumes a 10:1 download:upload ratio, so ~4Mbps
up). Latency needs to be quick enough for real-time voice or video
calls to work smoothly. If the makeup of our homes change or the
applications we use within the home change, I'm all for adjusting
these figures. This still leaves DSL, cable, fiber, and various
wireless technologies as options that would qualify for the
definition of broadband. At some point, if one of these technologies
cannot keep up with the pace of demand it will need to be excluded
in favor of technologies that have done a better job of keeping
pace.<br>
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--B<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/28/2021 8:07 AM, Chris Adams (IT)
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d be interested to understand the
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: New minimum speed for US broadband
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<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:29:08 PM<br>
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What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband"
in the U.S.?<br>
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