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    What is the rationale for changing it? Have the applications
    changed? Has our use of them changed?<br>
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    Yes, somewhat. There's been, and will continue to be, more cord
    cutting of non-IP broadcast video services towards unicast IP
    streaming services. However, video codecs have gotten more efficient
    so that what used to require an 8Mbps stream now fits in a 4Mbps
    package. I see more folks video conferencing (whether that be for
    personal or business use), which relies more heavily on upload than
    most applications. Folks with crummy WiFi or slower upload speeds
    have become the have-nots in this remote work era. The goal of
    subsidies is to lift the base/minimum so that there are fewer
    have-nots. Set the qualifier too low and you'll end up providing
    assistance where it doesn't accomplish this goal. Raise the
    qualifier too high too soon and you run the risk of excluding
    assistance where it could help.<br>
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    I'm content with 10Mbps down per person in the household (a quick
    rule of thumb I've been using for a few years). If a common
    household has 4 people, 40Mbps download seems sufficient for today's
    typical usage (this assumes a 10:1 download:upload ratio, so ~4Mbps
    up). Latency needs to be quick enough for real-time voice or video
    calls to work smoothly. If the makeup of our homes change or the
    applications we use within the home change, I'm all for adjusting
    these figures. This still leaves DSL, cable, fiber, and various
    wireless technologies as options that would qualify for the
    definition of broadband. At some point, if one of these technologies
    cannot keep up with the pace of demand it will need to be excluded
    in favor of technologies that have done a better job of keeping
    pace.<br>
    <br>
    --B<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/28/2021 8:07 AM, Chris Adams (IT)
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I’d be interested to understand the
          rationale for not wanting to change the definition. Is it
          strictly the business/capital outlay expense?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black"> </span></b><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Chris Adams<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog-bounces+chris.adams=ung.edu@nanog.org"><nanog-bounces+chris.adams=ung.edu@nanog.org></a>
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Canady<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 8:39 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: New minimum speed for US broadband
              connections<o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="font-family:"Gotham A";color:#FFC82E">CAUTION:</span><span
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          <p>I second Mike.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 5/28/21 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  don't think it needs to change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    -----<br>
                    Mike Hammett<br>
                    Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From:
                    </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Sean
                    Donelan"
                    <a href="mailto:sean@donelan.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><sean@donelan.com></a><br>
                    <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
                    <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:29:08 PM<br>
                    <b>Subject: </b>New minimum speed for US broadband
                    connections<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband"
                    in the U.S.?<br>
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