<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>What is the demonstrated *need* (not want) for your standard mass-market customer to *need* more than that?<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Chris Adams (IT)" <Chris.Adams@ung.edu><br><b>To: </b>"Jason Canady" <jason@unlimitednet.us>, nanog@nanog.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 28, 2021 8:07:13 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d be interested to understand the rationale for not wanting to change the definition. Is it strictly the business/capital outlay expense?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris.adams=ung.edu@nanog.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Canady<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 8:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> nanog@nanog.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections</p>
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<p>I second Mike.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/28/21 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I don't think it needs to change.</span></p>
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Mike Hammett<br>
Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
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Midwest-IX<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Sean Donelan"
<a href="mailto:sean@donelan.com" target="_blank"><sean@donelan.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:29:08 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>New minimum speed for US broadband connections<br>
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What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.?<br>
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This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year<br>
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year speed<br>
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1999 200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than <br>
dialup/ISDN speeds)<br>
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2000 200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service <br>
providers had 128 kbps upload)<br>
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2010 4 mbps down / 1 mbps up<br>
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2015 25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired)<br>
5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless)<br>
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2021 ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps)<br>
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Not only in major cities, but also rural areas<br>
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Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't <br>
advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must <br>
deliver better service.</span></p>
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