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There is a difference between fines and ordering <span
class="fontstyle0">restitution. The FTC case was concerned with
"</span><span class="fontstyle0">monetary relief</span>" The
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On 4/23/2021 10:29 AM, Matt Erculiani wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> It just got harder for the FTC to fine people
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<div>Based on the unanimous US Supreme Court decision, they
never could in the first place, at least in the particular
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<div>It'll be up to Congress to explicitly define how big the
FTC's teeth are, not the unelected leadership of a regulatory
body to decide for themselves. Working as Intended (despite
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:00
AM Patrick W. Gilmore <<a href="mailto:patrick@ianai.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">patrick@ianai.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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Apr 23, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Sean Donelan <<a
href="mailto:sean@donelan.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">sean@donelan.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, Dan Hollis wrote:<br>
>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, Eric Kuhnke wrote:<br>
>>> Did the FCC ever collect its $50 million from
"Sandwich Isles<br>
>>> Telecommunications" for blatant fraud? At this
scale I wonder how or why<br>
>>> certain people are not in federal prison.<br>
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>> FCC is not law enforcement. The FTC can send people
to prison. The FCC can only send press releases.<br>
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> Neither FCC nor FTC can send people to prison. Only the
Department of Justice can criminally prosecute people (or
corporations, i.e. WORLDCOM, ENRON, etc) in the U.S. Federal
system. States and other countries vary.<br>
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> FCC can deny future licenses and make things difficult
for long-term carriers. Most scammers declare bankruptcy or
just never pay.<br>
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> <a
href="https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/fcc-fine-enforcement-scrutiny-216121"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/fcc-fine-enforcement-scrutiny-216121</a><br>
> FCC proposes millions in fines, collects $0<br>
> November 23, 2015<br>
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It just got harder for the FTC to fine people: <a
href="https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stories/2021/04/22/supreme-court-limits-ftcs-ability-recoup-illgotten-gains"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stories/2021/04/22/supreme-court-limits-ftcs-ability-recoup-illgotten-gains</a><br>
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TTFN,<br>
patrick<br>
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