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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I believe we were recently quoted a price of like $900/month (between cross-connect and monthly charge) for 10Mb OpenGear OOB access in a large Canadian Data Center.  We passed.  While I don’t disagree, you
 have to pay for these services.  The cost far exceeds the value for what is provided in many cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">NANOG <nanog-bounces+mcgurtym=ae.com@nanog.org> on behalf of "jstalder@ieee.org" <jstalder@ieee.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>'Matthew Crocker' <matthew@corp.crocker.com>, 'NANOG' <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh? If customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo
 for a cross-connect”. ~$300/mo might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo is ridiculous.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">If 4G-ish mobile service won’t work, expect to pay. ;-(</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-Joel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> NANOG <nanog-bounces+jstalder=ieee.org@nanog.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Crocker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NANOG <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t
 work too well.  I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and ethernet for when everything breaks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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