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Yep, that's what I finally got. This is a pretty major issue for me and also shows a massive failing on Google..<br class="">
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I'm a VPS hosting provider, and despite no change in geolocation from any other vendor, no changes in the whois on either my ASN or my IP subnets, google is now redirecting to Google Hong Kong (likely due to Asian clients using VPNs from their phones).. This
is incredibly annoying and clients shouldn't be able to change geolocation on an entire /24 that easily.</div>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Monday, March 29, 2021 2:52:48 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Christopher Morrow <<a href="mailto:morrowc.lists@gmail.com" class="">morrowc.lists@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> Michael K. Spears <<a href="mailto:michael@spears.io" class="">michael@spears.io</a>>; <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a> <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: Google IP Geolocation</font>
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<div class="">I signed up for an account there and they said:</div>
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<div class="">"Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI or IX programs.</div>
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<div class="">unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and produce proper results for you.</div>
<div class="">you do have to add that in your isp portal:<br class="">
tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP geolocation</div>
<div class="">and /register feed/ button on that page.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your RFC8805 format geolocation feed...
<div class="">these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better for folks.</div>
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<div class="">the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who scrape out our data) where meetings are before the meetings get there:<br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal">Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, but it definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, notably finding the link…
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: Google IP Geolocation<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<b class="">Subject: </b>Google IP Geolocation<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" class="">Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation? I have a /24 where anything related to Google is in the wrong language.
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