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Hi folks,<br>
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To briefly clarify the "now mostly i3D" situation.. i3D.net was acquired by Ubisoft in 2019, and the reason why you're seeing Ubisoft's ASN disappearing from the IXPs where they were present is that we are integrating the networks. Ubisoft's prefixes are being
announced downstream of i3D.net's AS49544 and continue to be reachable through a very long list of IXPs.<br>
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Another thing to keep in mind is that not all videogaming publishers have in-house game hosting capabilities, exactly because it is not easy to build the required global footprint to support this type of traffic with sufficient low-latency quality. Many will
use external hosting providers, either bare metal or cloud. And although we are nowadays owned by Ubisoft, we still carry lots of non-Ubisoft videogames in our network since helping this industry attain low latency has always been and continues to be our core
business.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Martijn<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/23/21 4:03 PM, Eric Dugas via NANOG wrote:<br>
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<div>Agreed. The few good examples in Canada are Ubisoft/i3D (now mostly just i3D) and Riot Games. We don't have Valve or Blizzard here.</div>
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<div>Epic Games seems to use Akamai for downloads/updates and AWS for backend so I don't see how you can cache/optimize latency other than getting in Akamai's own AANP program and peering with AWS.</div>
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<div>Eric</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote_attribution">On Mar 23 2021, at 10:05 am, Mike Hammett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net">
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif">For an industry (online gaming) with the most "sensitive" customers to latency, packet loss, throughput, etc., the online gaming industry is terrible at peering. There
are a few shining examples of what you should do, but then the rest is just content with buying transit from one, two, three players and calling it a day.</font></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Mike Hammett</font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Intelligent Computing Solutions</font></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><strong>From:
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helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">"Jose Luis Rodriguez"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jlrodriguez@gmail.com"><jlrodriguez@gmail.com></a></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><strong>To:
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helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><strong>Sent:
</strong></font></font></font></font><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial,
helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Monday, March 22, 2021 9:13:46 PM</font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><strong>Subject:
</strong></font></font></font></font><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial,
helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Peering and Caching for Epic Games,
Fortnite, et al</font></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">We run a healthy-sized ISP (say, 2.5M households, plus enterprise, etc ) and we really,
REALLY want to make sure our users have an amazing experience when downloading the neverending Fortnite/Spacequest/Blizzard/DigDug updates that run down our pipes. Would love to hear from others about how they're peering and caching -- not having the level
of success I'd want with the typical "aggregators" (they know who they are ) and would really like to link to the source even if it means trenching through the core of the Earth...</font></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Would love pointers, names, or any leads, on or off list. </font></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks</font></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Jose L. Rodriguez</font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size:10pt"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:12pt"><font style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">CTO, Totalplay</font></font></font></font></div>
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