<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Mar 22, 2021, at 6:01 PM, scott <<a href="mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com" class="">surfer@mauigateway.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">One last thing before I stop. How would the numerous NANOG archives work when everything is on Discourse? The same?</span></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Absolutely not! </div><div><br class=""></div><div>The archives on Discourse and the like, along with everything else, is subject to the marketing-driven application owner’s whims. One should not expect archives to be maintained indefinitely. And, when the vendor decides to save disk space, do not count on being informed of the decision before information goes to the bit bucket. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>NANOG threads from last century are still available and do not require a modern browser or, in fact, any browser. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div>This is the genius of a group driven mailing list using basic RFC-compliant content and transport: The business purpose of the mailing list is set by the technical and social needs of NANOG and not by the financial wants of a particular vendor. What is the value of the NANOG list archive? If it is non-zero over time, do not make it dependent on the business practices of any but NANOG itself.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; font-size: 12px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="">James R. Cutler - <a href="mailto:james.cutler@consultant.com" class="">james.cutler@consultant.com</a></span></div><div class="">GPG keys: <a href="hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net" class="">hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class=""><div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>