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<div>What’s going on in Texas has nothing to do with power distribution. It has to do with ability to generate power. </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:25:12 AM<br>
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It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the underground plant.
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<div>The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in as well.
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<b>From: </b>"Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> <br>
<b>To: </b>"Sean Donelan" <sean@donelan.com>, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 16, 2021 6:05:41 AM <br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts <br>
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Are the power lines buried like in Europe where I live? <br>
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I really think using poles is crazy and global warming guarantees enough atmospheric turbulence to make it untenable. Florida is moving to bury power lines.
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:06 AM <br>
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<div class="x_PlainText">On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote: <br>
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> The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which aren't <br>
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<a target="_blank">https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/
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