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noopener noreferrer"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png" style="border:0pt none"></a><span name="x"></span><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nether.net><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>, nanog@nanog.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 16, 2021 8:38:11 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts<br><br><br><br>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:<br>> <br>> It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the underground plant.<br>> <br>> The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in as well.<br>> <br><br>Labor is something in 8x but the permit/engineering cost is usually the same per foot, but the make-ready on poles can make underground competitive or more like 1.5x when you fully bake the costs. Really depends on pole distances and quality. O&M long-term is lower on underground vs aerial.<br><br>- Jared</div><br></div></body></html>