<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Eric, I’d argue that does fall within the definition of incompetence called out by Izaac.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m talking about how you run out of RFC-1918 space (if you choose to use it in the first place) without incompetence.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 11, 2021, at 09:15 , Eric Kuhnke <<a href="mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com" class="">eric.kuhnke@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">You don't, you wastefully assign a /24 to every unique thing that you think needs an internal management IP block (even if there's 5 things that answer pings there), and decide it's too much work to renumber things. Easy for a big ISP that's also acquired many small/mid-sized ISPs to run out of v4 private IP space that way.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:05 AM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 without running out of<br class="">
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If you can’t, then I’m not the one making excuses.<br class="">
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> On Feb 9, 2021, at 15:44 , Izaac <<a href="mailto:izaac@setec.org" target="_blank" class="">izaac@setec.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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>> it is definitely possible to run out of RFC-1918 space with scale and no incompetence.<br class="">
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> No, it isn't. It's the year 2021. Stop making excuses.<br class="">
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