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Thanks for the answer. In that case I would recommend to continue providing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream beyond the system shutdown state, while continuing to allow for stale objects to be deleted: manually, or automated based on Whois-RWS OriginAS data, or
 automated based on IRR-online data, or automated based on RPKI ROA data. Ideally all four, especially the automated ones..</div>
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While September 2021 may seem a long time away, you'll probably still impact somebody that didn't read the mails by outright removing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream rather than working to clean it up.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2021 17:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt@i3d.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog list <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Internet Routing Registry folks - Important - (Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation Now Open on the Future of ARIN�s IRR)</font>
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<div class=""><span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>This does not affect entries in the ARIN�s Whois system so OriginAS fields are unaffected. </div>
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<div class=""><span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>The new IRR-online system was a clean slate when announced and all objects therein have been freshly created by the authorized party.   Folks with routing information in the unauthenticated
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Hi John,</div>
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What happens to the route objects (and for that matter the OriginAS field in the Whois-RWS system) that were created before the IRR-online service was launched? Are the route objects (and/or OriginAS fields from the Whois-RWS system) which were registered by
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class="" style="font-size:11pt"><b class="">From:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces+martijnschmidt=i3d.net@nanog.org" class="">nanog-bounces+martijnschmidt=i3d.net@nanog.org</a>>
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>08 February 2021 16:57<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Internet Routing Registry folks - Important - (Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation Now Open on the Future of ARIN�s IRR)</font>
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<div class=""><span class="x_x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>If you make use of ARIN�s unauthenticated IRR service or the NONAUTH data stream in your route filtering, please take note of the following ARIN consultation. </div>
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<div class="">ARIN has been engaged in a multi-year project to create and deploy a new and improved Internet Routing Registry (IRR). On 10 June 2020 (<a href="https://www.arin.net/announcements/20200610-irr/" class="">https://www.arin.net/announcements/20200610-irr/</a>),
 we launched IRR-online, an authenticated and web-based service designed to make it simple for users to publish routing information via ARIN�s website. At that time, the existing IRR-email system was temporarily left in place to allow organizations to continue
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On 1 February 2021 (<a href="https://www.arin.net/announcements/20210201-rn/" class="">https://www.arin.net/announcements/20210201-rn/</a>), we deployed a RESTful API to provide a way to securely automate updates to objects in ARIN�s authenticated IRR service.<br class="">
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With the availability of automation for ARIN�s new IRR system, we intend to retire ARIN�s previous non-authenticated, email-based IRR service at the end of September 2021. We are providing advance notice of this plan so that organizations using the non-authenticated
 and email-based IRR will have time to switch publication of their routing registry information to a more current solution. Similarly, by establishing a firm end date for the non-authenticated and email-based IRR, organizations making use of the outdated and
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The authenticated IRR is available to all ARIN resource holders that have resources covered by a signed Registration Services Agreement (RSA) or Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA). Organizations with resources not currently under an RSA/LRSA that
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We recognize that this change will have significant impacts on our customers and, as always, we�re interested in your feedback regarding this proposed transition. In particular, we would appreciate hearing from the ARIN community regarding these aspects of
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1.<span class="x_x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>For those using ARIN�s email-based and non-authenticated IRR system, does the proposed shutdown date of 30 September 2021 provide sufficient time for migration to another IRR system?<br class="">
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2.<span class="x_x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>For those making use of the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream, is there any reason to provide this information beyond the system shutdown date?<br class="">
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The community feedback provided during this consultation will help inform how we move forward. Please provide comments to<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net" class="">arin-consult@arin.net</a>. You can subscribe
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This consultation will remain open through 5:00 PM ET on Monday, 8 March.<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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