<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>*facepalm*<div><br></div><div>No one cares about old hardware when solving a modern problem.</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>Existing IP <-> geolocation methods, assuming they are up to date and have easy maintenance, are good enough. 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noopener noreferrer"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png" style="border:0pt none"></a><span name="x"></span><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Masataka Ohta" <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc: </b>nanog@nanog.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, January 4, 2021 9:50:11 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study<br><br>Mike Hammett wrote:<br><br>> Every device that would be capable of doing anything also has an OS.<br><br>Old computers had hardware (manually manipulated switches and<br>light bulbs to read/write specific memory locations) to install boot<br>strap loader to download OS without any OS.<br><br>> The only involvement ISPs should have is ensuring that they have<br>> proper IP <-> geolocation information<br><br>Though IP layer has notion of location w.r.t. network topology,<br>it is not geolocation, which is why there is no precise geolocation<br>services to be relied by essential services such as emergency<br>alert.<br><br> Masataka Ohta<br></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>