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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/26/20 3:28 PM, Mike Hammett
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        10pt; color: #000000">Use a router with FQ_CODEL and be amazed
        at how much you can get onto a pipe without any perceptible
        difference in the experience.<br>
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    <p>I did that, after a meltdown and yes it made a huge difference. I
      don't understand why CPE don't implement it by default.</p>
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    <p>Mike<br>
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          </b>"Michael Thomas" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mike@mtcc.com"><mike@mtcc.com></a><br>
          <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 25, 2020 1:27:39 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [External] Re: 10g residential CPE<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/25/20 11:04 AM, Mark Tinka
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/25/20 20:10, Hunter
              Fuller via NANOG wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">It would meet some customers’ needs
                    because multiple people could use 1G of service at a
                    time. I think it is interesting to distinguish
                    “>1G CPE” from “true 10G CPE” and I suspect many
                    / most customers are looking for the former. <br>
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            Large upstream capacity has always been about aggregation of
            the downstream.<br>
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          <p>Can I ask a really dumb question? Consider it an xmas
            present. I know this sounds like "nobody needs more than
            640k", but how can household possibly need a gig let alone
            10g? I'm still on 25mbs DSL, have cut the cord so all tv,
            etc is over the net. If I really cared and wanted 4k I could
            probably upgrade to a 50mbs service and be fine. Admittedly
            it's just the two of us here, but throw in a couple of kids
            and I still don't see how ~100mbs isn't sufficient let alone
            1 or 10G. Am I missing something really stupid?<br>
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          <p>Mike<br>
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