<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The probable "purpose of obtaining illicit access to random devices on the Internet these days” is to create botnets to attack more lucrative targets or to employ them as gateway devices to provide access to local networks which may contain targets of interest.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 12, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Peter E. Fry <<a href="mailto:pfry@tailbone.net" class="">pfry@tailbone.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Simple question: What's the purpose of obtaining illicit access to random devices on the Internet these days, considering that a large majority of attacks are now launched from cheap, readily available and poorly managed/overseen "cloud" services? Finding anything worthwhile to steal on random machines on the Internet seems unlikely, as does obtaining access superior (in e.g. location, bandwidth, anonymity, etc.) to the service from which the attack was launched.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I was thinking about this the other day as I was poking at my firewall, and hopped onto the archives (here and elsewhere) to see if I could find any discussion. I found a few mentions (e.g. "Microsoft is hacking my Asterisk???"), but I didn't catch any mention of purpose. Am I missing something obvious (either a purpose or a discussion of such)? Have I lost my mind entirely? (Can't hurt to check, as I'd likely be the last to know.)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Peter E. Fry<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>