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<pre>> Put them together, and the nightmare scenario is:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>> - machine learning algorithm detects need for more resources<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">All good so far<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>> - machine learning algorithm makes use of vulnerability analysis library <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>> to find other systems with resources to spare, and starts attaching<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>> those resources<o:p></o:p></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Right so
a company would built, trained and fine-tuned an AI, or
would have bought such a product and implemented it as part
of its NMS/DDoS mitigation suite, to do the above? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What is
the probability of anyone thinking that to be a good idea?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">To me
that does sound like an AI based virus rather than a tool
one would want to develop or buy from a third party and then
integrate into the day to day operations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You
can’t take for instance alpha-0 or GPT-3 and make it do the
above. You’d have to train it to do so over millions of
examples and trials. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Oh and
also these won’t “wake up” one day and “think” to themselves
oh I’m fed up with Atari games I’m going to learn myself
some chess and then do some reading on wiki about the chess
rules. </span></p>
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Jeez... some guys seem to take a joke literally - while ignoring a
real and present danger - which was the point.<br>
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Meanwhile, yes, I think that a poorly ENGINEERED DDoS mitigation
suite might well have failure modes that just keep eating up
resources until systems start crashing all over the place. Heck,
spinning off processes until all available resources have been
exhausted has been a failure mode of systems for years. Automated
resource discovery + automated resource allocation = recipe for
disaster. (No need for AIs eating the world.)<br>
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Miles<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown</pre>
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