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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Rob McEwen <<a href="mailto:rob@invaluement.com" class="">rob@invaluement.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 11/16/2020 9:54 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I would like to formally request that Mr. Cohen's privileges to post to this list be revoked, or otherwise curtailed.<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">+1<br class=""><br class="">Several months ago, Elad Cohen went on record claiming that I was secretly "Rob Shultz" from Spamhaus - an outrageous lie. (Spamhaus is actually my competitor... and I've only ever known a few people there - and not even that well.) What I had to do to (somewhat!) clear my name - so that the average person who doesn't know me could tell with a high degree of certainty that Elad Cohen lies about me weren't true - took away many hours out of my life and got me in trouble with maawg for discussing too many details about the people at maawg events whom I had interacted with (to show that me and this other Rob couldn't possibly be the same person). Note that I barely know "Rob Shultz", and hadn't even heard of "Rob Shultz" until AFTER I saw Cohen's accusation. I don't think that "Rob Shultz" is a bad person at all - from what little I know about him - but these accusations could potentially cause frustration/confusion in the niche market served by both invaluement (my company) and Spamhaus. The way Elad Cohen pushes ludicrous/unfounded conspiracy theories that are easily proven false - makes me question his mental heath. Ironically, at the same time, I'm actually somewhat of an *EXTREMIST* when it comes to free-speech and the free flow of ideas. I absolutely hate it when others shut down opposing ideas due to being "offended". But what makes this case DIFFERENT - is that I draw a line at slander/libel. I gave Elad Cohen every opportunity to prove his accusations - and he wasn't able to. And, again, what I had to explain about my meetings with people (aka "witnesses") at maawg - to prove that Elad was lying - caused me irreparable damage with maawg. His slander/libel is damaging to others. He doesn't add any value (at least, none that I can find) - he only harms other people in malicous ways.<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Rob McEwen, invaluement<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>