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    <p>Hello All!</p>
    <p>I've been out of the loop here and but have some updates.</p>
    <p>There was a change last spring and I moved on to other projects. 
      But that hasn't worked out for the IX.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>I  have regained access to all of the elements, including the
      email and voip.  Let me reach out to each of you offline in the
      coming days.</p>
    <p>I have been able to reach out to a few locals that are willing to
      help get the project back up to where it needs to be.</p>
    <p>If I haven;t reached out to you in the next 48 hours or you have
      something urgent, please reach out to me here (my personal email)
      or via the Phoenix-IX Contacts</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
        href="mailto:peering@phoenix-ix.net">peering@phoenix-ix.net</a></p>
    <p>+1 602 688-6414<br>
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    ~Paul Emmons
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/16/2020 12:23 PM, Neil Hanlon
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        <div dir="ltr">While I agree it is objectively irresponsible to
          abandon a project without passing it to another, I think that
          possibly in this situation we don't know all the details?
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          <div>2020 has been a difficult year for everyone. Perhaps Paul
            (and whomever else may be responsible for Phoenix-IX) were
            subject to things this year beyond their control which led
            them to be unable to work on the project and unable to
            transfer it, either.. unfortunate, yes.. but not malicious
            surely.</div>
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          <div>If Paul _is_ reading these messages.. I think support is
            the best path forward.. If there are things that can be done
            to assist/take over the IX... maybe that would help (as you,
            Kate, had offered towards the beginning of this all). Though
            of course, the first step is _reaching_ them... Maybe this
            can be turned into a "win" for everyone. So: Paul/Phoenix-IX
            -- let the NANOG community know how they/we can help.</div>
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          <div>--</div>
          <div>Neil</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:05
            PM Kate Gerry <<a href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">kgerry@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">An update on my
              side, we reached out to PhoenixNAP, one of the
              Phoenix-IX's vendors.
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              <div>PhoenixNAP reached out all of their contacts at
                Phoenix-IX and have received no response. They are in as
                much of the dark as the rest of us. I feel like I'm on
                the Ghost ship Phoenix-IX.</div>
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              <div>What I don't understand, is how somebody could
                abandon a project without passing it to another person
                or entity. This is extremely irresponsible.</div>
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                      <div>On Nov 12, 2020, at 05:11, Marcus Josephson
                        <<a href="mailto:mjosephson@inap.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mjosephson@inap.com</a>>
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                            tried to get a link to PHX-IX for months.
                            Never heard back from them, went with
                            Digital Realty Phoenix</div>
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                                <<a
                                  href="mailto:nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap.com@nanog.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap.com@nanog.org</a>><span> </span><b>On
                                  Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Kate Gerry<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday,
                                November 10, 2020 11:06 AM<br>
                                <b>To:</b><span> </span>Matt Hoppes <<a
href="mailto:mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net</a>><br>
                                <b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a
                                  href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a>
                                list <<a
                                  href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
                                Phoenix-IX Contact</div>
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                              am running on a huge assumption here, but
                              I think Phoenix-IX runs on donated
                              infrastructure. From what I recall, there
                              was only an NRC to join Phoenix-IX.</div>
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                            <div style="margin:0in 0in
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                              in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks
                              like HE already started one with Stellar
                              Technologies. <a href="https://48ix.net/"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://48ix.net</a> but
                              it is only in a single facility. So until
                              that IX grows, both in peers and
                              footprint, I'm stuck on Phoenix-IX.</div>
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                              have wondered what happens if a
                              participant storms the IX. Will somebody
                              appear? Because attempts to reach their
                              NOC/peering handles has resulted in a lack
                              of response.</div>
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                            <div style="margin:0in 0in
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                              also wonder how the other Ninja-IX
                              exchanges are running, I haven't heard
                              anything about them, is there the same
                              lack of communication? Or do those have a
                              local staff?</div>
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                                    Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes
                                    <<a
                                      href="mailto:mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net</a>>
                                    wrote:</div>
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                                      is the IX still running?  Surely
                                      someone must be paying colo rent?<br>
                                      <br>
                                      On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      <div style="margin:0in 0in
                                        0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Always
                                        a good time for network
                                        operators to consider the risks
                                        of having any one person as a
                                        single point of failure for
                                        something kind of important:<br>
                                        <a
                                          href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor</a><br>
                                        Disaster recovery and continuity
                                        of business plans should always
                                        include the concept of what if
                                        some percentage of the key team
                                        members were to be suddenly
                                        unavailable permanently (the
                                        Malaysian airline incident, for
                                        example).<br>
                                        On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM
                                        Kate Gerry <<a
                                          href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry@outlook.com"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">kgerry@outlook.com
                                          <mailto:kgerry@outlook.com</a>>>
                                        wrote:<br>
                                           Is there anybody else even
                                        there? I thought that it was all
                                        Paul's show!<br>
                                           If I was able to (as in, had
                                        access to), I would offer to
                                        help/run<br>
                                           with the IX. I may live in
                                        California, but it's a realistic
                                        car trip<br>
                                           back and forth to Phoenix.<br>
                                           --<br>
                                           Kate<br>
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                                          Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike
                                          Hammett <<a
href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:nanog@ics-il.net"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@ics-il.net<br>
   <mailto:nanog@ics-il.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
                                          <br>
                                             Paul's LinkedIn seems to
                                          show that he checked out in
                                          April. Let me<br>
                                             know if you have any
                                          success reaching anyone there.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                             -----<br>
                                             Mike Hammett<br>
                                             Intelligent Computing
                                          Solutions <<a
                                            href="http://www.ics-il.com/"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
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                                            href="https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL</a>><<a
href="https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb</a>><<a
href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions</a>><<a
href="https://twitter.com/ICSIL"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/ICSIL</a>><br>
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                                          <<a
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style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
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                                            href="https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix</a>><<a
href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange</a>><<a
href="https://twitter.com/mdwestix"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/mdwestix</a>><br>
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                                            href="https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp</a>><<a
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                                             *From:*"Kate Gerry" <<a
href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry@outlook.com"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">kgerry@outlook.com
<mailto:kgerry@outlook.com</a>>><br>
                                             *To:*"Bill Woodcock" <<a
href="mailto:woody@pch.net%20%3cmailto:woody@pch.net"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">woody@pch.net
                                            <mailto:woody@pch.net</a>>><br>
                                             *Cc:*<a
                                            href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a>
                                          <<a
                                            href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
                                             *Sent:*Monday, November 9,
                                          2020 5:44:42 PM<br>
                                             *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX
                                          Contact<br>
                                          <br>
                                             Just a heads-up, I never
                                          heard a word from anybody at
                                          Phoenix-IX.<br>
                                          <br>
                                             Is there anybody still
                                          running the IX? Or is it just
                                          on autopilot?<br>
                                             It'd be nice if anybody had
                                          some information on whatever
                                          happened<br>
                                             to Paul. Hopefully he is
                                          okay!<br>
                                          <br>
                                             --<br>
                                             Kate<br>
                                          <br>
                                                 On Sep 14, 2020, at
                                          13:33, Kate Gerry <<a
href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:kgerry@outlook.com"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">kgerry@outlook.com<br>
       <mailto:kgerry@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
                                          <br>
                                                 Thank Bill! I've been
                                          trying to reach Paul for ages
                                          now,<br>
                                                 hopefully he pops back
                                          up again. We want to upgrade.<br>
                                          <br>
                                                 On an unrelated note,
                                          it looks like somebody has
                                          their ticket<br>
                                                 system subscribed to
                                          the list... Awesome.<br>
                                          <br>
                                                     *From: *Dating
                                          Support <<a
href="mailto:dating.support@csvwebsupport.com%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:dating.support@csvwebsupport.com"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">dating.support@csvwebsupport.com<br>
           <mailto:dating.support@csvwebsupport.com</a>>><br>
                                                     *Subject:
                                          **[#WQV-291-95071]: Phoenix-IX
                                          Contact*<br>
                                                     *Date: *September
                                          14, 2020 at 12:43:20 PDT<br>
                                                     *To:<span> </span><a
href="mailto:*kgerry@outlook.com"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">*kgerry@outlook.com</a><span> </span><<a
href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:kgerry@outlook.com</a>><br>
                                                     *Reply-To:<span> </span><a
href="mailto:*dating.support@csvwebsupport.com"
                                            style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">*dating.support@csvwebsupport.com</a><br>
                                                     <<a
                                            href="mailto:dating.support@csvwebsupport.com"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:dating.support@csvwebsupport.com</a>><br>
                                          <br>
                                                     Kate Gerry,<br>
                                          <br>
                                                     Thank you for
                                          contacting us. This is an
                                          automated response<br>
                                                     confirming the
                                          receipt of your ticket. Our
                                          team will get<br>
                                                     back to you within
                                          24 hours.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                                 --<br>
                                                 Kate<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                                     On Sep 14, 2020, at
                                          12:48, Bill Woodcock <<a
href="mailto:woody@pch.net%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:woody@pch.net"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">woody@pch.net<br>
           <mailto:woody@pch.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                                         On Sep 14,
                                          2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry<br>
                                                         <<a
                                            href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry@outlook.com"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">kgerry@outlook.com
<mailto:kgerry@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
                                          <br>
                                                         Does anybody
                                          have a contact who works at
                                          Phoenix-IX? I<br>
                                                         have been
                                          attempting to reach somebody
                                          there for a<br>
                                                         while now
                                          without any luck.<br>
                                          <br>
                                                         Attempts to
                                          each out<span> </span><a
                                            href="mailto:topeering@phoenix-ix.net"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">topeering@phoenix-ix.net</a><br>
                                                         <<a
                                            href="mailto:peering@phoenix-ix.net"
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:peering@phoenix-ix.net</a>>as
                                          well as Ninja-IX<br>
                                                         have been
                                          without any luck. We also
                                          tried reaching out<br>
                                                         to Paul Emmons
                                          via LinkedIn mail and never
                                          received a<br>
                                                         response.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                                     Paul is the correct
                                          person.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          -Bill</div>
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