<div dir="ltr"><div>I presume that the biggest telcos, cable MSOs and such in the Phoenix region already operate PNIs with each other, so the real question would be what population of ISPs and how much traffic would go across an IX if you subtract the top-six largest last mile service providers.</div><div><br></div><div><br> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 5:28 AM Walt <<a href="mailto:walt@wollny.org">walt@wollny.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">NANOG <nanog-bounces+walt=<a href="mailto:wollny.org@nanog.org" target="_blank">wollny.org@nanog.org</a>> on behalf of Kate Gerry <<a href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com" target="_blank">kgerry@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:07 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: Phoenix-IX Contact<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it was all Paul's show!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica">From:<span class="gmail-m_-5253388590832197034apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica">"Kate Gerry" <<a href="mailto:kgerry@outlook.com" target="_blank">kgerry@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>To:<span class="gmail-m_-5253388590832197034apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Bill Woodcock" <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" target="_blank">woody@pch.net</a>><br>
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<b>Sent:<span class="gmail-m_-5253388590832197034apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM<br>
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Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody at Phoenix-IX.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica">On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody has their ticket system subscribed to the list... Awesome.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your ticket. Our team will get back to you within 24 hours.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Does anybody have a contact who works at Phoenix-IX? I have been attempting to reach somebody there for a while now without any luck.<br>
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Attempts to each out to<span class="gmail-m_-5253388590832197034apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:peering@phoenix-ix.net" target="_blank">peering@phoenix-ix.net</a><span class="gmail-m_-5253388590832197034apple-converted-space"> </span>as well as Ninja-IX have been without any luck. We also tried reaching
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