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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Jared,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This project looks very interesting. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Can you share with us which software or package do you use in DANOS for routing? Is it a kind of command wrapper on top of FRR?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Also, it seems stable, but I am sure you already faced some minor or weird bugs. How is the support handle with DANOS? Is it community driven?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for sharing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=ddostest.me@nanog.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jared Geiger<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 23, 2020 12:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> NANOG <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Linux router network cards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I use DANOS with Intel XL710 10G NICs in DPDK mode for linux based routing.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you're doing routing protocols, allocate 2 CPU cores to the control plane and then a CPU core per 10G/1G interface for the dataplane, plus an extra core for good measure. So for a 4 x 10G router taking in full routes, 2 cores for control plane, 5 cores for the dataplane. Those cores should be Intel Xeon E5-2600v3/4 or newer and faster the clocks, the better.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Similar CPU core allocations if you choose TNSR.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:21 PM Jean St-Laurent via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Chelsio cards are probably what you are looking for.<br><br><a href="https://www.chelsio.com/terminator-6-asic/" target="_blank">https://www.chelsio.com/terminator-6-asic/</a><br><br>It's closer to an asic than a traditional nic as the router/firewall rules<br>are pushed directly into the hardware.<br><br>I don't know how good they are with linux and they seem to be compatible.<br><a href="https://www.chelsio.com/linux/" target="_blank">https://www.chelsio.com/linux/</a><br><br>You will need to mess around a bit and fiddle here and there. If you don't<br>mind using FreeBSD instead of linux, you could achieve a smoother and more<br>integrated experience.<br><br>Jean<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=<a href="mailto:ddostest.me@nanog.org" target="_blank">ddostest.me@nanog.org</a>> On Behalf Of micah<br>anderson<br>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:31 PM<br>To: Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>>; NANOG<br><<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>Subject: RE: Linux router network cards<br><br><br>Thanks for the reply.<br><br>Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>> writes:<br>> Take a look at the Mellanox ConnectX 5 series of cards. They handle <br>> DPDK, PVRDMA (basically SR-IOV that allows live migration between <br>> hosts), and can even process packets within the NIC for some<br><br>From what I can tell, SR-IOV/PVRDMA aren't really useful for me in building<br>a router that wont be doing any virtualization.<br><br>If the card can do DPDK, can it do XDP?<br><br>> The slidedeck for the presentation is here:<br>> <a href="https://www.ausnog.net/sites/default/files/ausnog-2019/presentations/1" target="_blank">https://www.ausnog.net/sites/default/files/ausnog-2019/presentations/1</a><br>> .9_Rhod_Brown_AusNOG2019.pdf<br>><br>> It's heavily targeting virtualised workloads but some of the feature sets<br>apply to bare-metal uses too.<br><br>Yeah, this wont be a virtualized environment, just a router passing packets,<br>dropping them, handling bgp and collecting flows.<br><br>-- <br> micah<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>