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I know there are some European carriers that offer this as a fully productized service, Colt and euNetworks come to mind.</div>
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Best regards,</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces+martijnschmidt=i3d.net@nanog.org> on behalf of Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 October 2020 21:35<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Brandon Martin' <lists.nanog@monmotha.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Passive Wave Primer</font>
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<div class="PlainText">We sell some wavelengths on passive CWDM/DWDM path's between Datacentres<br>
(less than 80Km) to customers to spread the cost of leasing the dark fibre.<br>
But yes, as far as long distance (apart from bespoke offerings) I'm yet to<br>
see a productised alien wave service. If you are spending all that money on<br>
OTN kit the extra cost of the transponders is not really significant I<br>
suppose.<br>
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+tony=wicks.co.nz@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Brandon<br>
Martin<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2020 8:11 am<br>
To: nanog@nanog.org<br>
Subject: Re: Passive Wave Primer<br>
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I have yet to find a service provider that is actually willing to sell this<br>
even when they have it in their service offering catalog. The difficulties<br>
of coordinating everything with the customer are so extreme that it seems to<br>
usually make sense to either lease the customer dark fiber or capitalize the<br>
transponders needed to carry it as a managed wave on the provider's<br>
transport system. Might make sense if you literally want half the spectrum<br>
on a long-haul span or something.<br>
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