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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Wondering whether the industry will consider containerised data-plane in addition to control-plane (like cRDP). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Having just control-plane and then hacking to kernel for doing the data-plane bit is …well not as straight forward as having a dedicated data-plane VM or potentially container. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>adam<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> NANOG <nanog-bounces+adamv0025=netconsultings.com@nanog.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Etienne-Victor Depasquale<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 1, 2020 7:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net><br><b>Cc:</b> NANOG <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Clearly to virtualize operating systems as long as your level of virtualization mainly in terms of security and resource consumption isolation & reservation is satisfactory is a much better and lighter option. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That pretty much sums up Intel's view.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To quote an Intel executive I was corresponding with:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"The purpose of the paper was to showcase how Communication Service Providers can move to a more nimble and future proof microservices based network architecture with cloud native functions, via container deployment methodologies versus virtual machines. The paper cites many benefits of moving to a microservices architecture beyond whether it is done in a VM environment or cloud native. We believe the 5G networks of the future will benefit greatly by implementing such an approach to deploying new services."<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The paper referred to is<a href="https://www.intel.in/content/www/in/en/communications/why-containers-and-cloud-native-functions-paper.html%20"> this one</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Etienne<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:23 PM Robert Raszuk <<a href="mailto:robert@raszuk.net">robert@raszuk.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I reason that Intel's implication is that virtualization is becoming obsolete.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Would anyone care to let me know his thoughts on this prediction?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Virtualization is not becoming obsolete ... quite reverse in fact in all types of deployments I can see around. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The point is that VM provides hardware virtualization while kubernetes with containers virtualize OS apps and services are running on in isolation. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Clearly to virtualize operating systems as long as your level of virtualization mainly in terms of security and resource consumption isolation & reservation is satisfactory is a much better and lighter option. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thx,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>R.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#888888'>Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale<br>Assistant Lecturer<br>Department of Communications & Computer Engineering<br>Faculty of Information & Communication Technology<br>University of Malta</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Web. <a href="https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale" target="_blank">https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>