<div dir="ltr">United Cable Company is primarily a broker. <div><br></div><div>To Rod's questions :<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sure, you can light a pair and monitor it many different ways. However, as James has said already, most people who want dark fiber are going to want one pair of glass from A to Z with nothing in the middle at all that they don't know about. For me, I would want to know exactly what you had in place ( full specifications , not hand waved 'monitoring device' ) , what wavelengths it used, how it functioned (fully passive, etc), along with some extensive tests to make sure I could do what I expected to without any interference or surprises, before I would come near a contract with you. From my point of view, any device on the glass I am leasing is essentially now part of my network, so I need to know everything about it. Others may have different standards of course, but that's perfectly fine. </div><div><br></div><div>I would say personally though that if during due diligence, your NOC was nothing more than an answering service to someone else, which it kinda sounds like you want, I would personally not do business with that. Again others may have different standards, and that's ok. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:54 PM Miles Fidelman <<a href="mailto:mfidelman@meetinghouse.net">mfidelman@meetinghouse.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Times;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Rod Beck</b><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Times;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span></span><a href="mailto:nanog%40nanog.org?Subject=Re%3A%20Outsourced%20NOC%20Solutions&In-Reply-To=%3CDM5PR1301MB197970E61423A8B18D0B5558E4850%40DM5PR1301MB1979.namprd13.prod.outlook.com%3E" title="Outsourced NOC Solutions" style="font-family:Times;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">rod.beck
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I would calm down, Miles. 😃 Dark fiber networks are built and usually maintained by the same construction company that installed them. And a dark fiber network does not even need a single full time optical engineer. If the cable is damaged, then the guys who installed it will repair it. All the expertise is there.
And no, I am not an executive at a undersea cable system. i was one of Hibernia Atlantic's top salesmen during the early years from 2004-2011 after which I retired.
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Funny thing then, given that you signed your original query as:<br>
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VP of Business Development
United Cable Company
<a href="http://www.unitedcablecompany.com" target="_blank">www.unitedcablecompany.com</a><<a href="http://www.unitedcablecompany.com/" target="_blank">http://www.unitedcablecompany.com</a>></pre>
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<p>And following the link to United Cable Company's web site
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<p>"Your source for the world's most distinctive submarine cable
assets." And the about page says "Its mission, as a leading
telecom consulting company, is to represent the world’s most
distinctive submarine and terrestrial cable assets."</p>
<p>Your original query asked:</p>
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<p>In a followup message you say:</p>
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<p>So... color me confused about who you are, who you represent,
what you're trying to accomplish, what you're asking, and,
perhaps, why you don't already know the answer to your question,
or have someone internal to your organization who already knows.</p>
<p>Miles Fidelman<br>
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<pre cols="72">--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown</pre>
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