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Exactly. Thanks very much , Roel. <br>
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Just to clarify, this is a dark fiber network already built and will be repaired by the construction company that built it. I just a system to inform them as soon as the fibers are damaged.
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It is definitely not a plane and does not need a pilot. <span id="🙂">🙂</span><br>
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Best, <br>
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Roderick. <br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 8, 2020 9:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Roel Parijs <roel.parijs@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org>; Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com><br>
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<div class="PlainText">Thank you for the most useful comment on the thread so far!<br>
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If I'm buying dark fiber, I'm expecting it to be a bunch of spliced glass from end to end. Maybe (maybe!) a connector or two for patching somewhere. However, something like this would be useful to sell "managed" dark fiber. You still get the strand, but I add
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From: "Roel Parijs" <roel.parijs@gmail.com><br>
To: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com><br>
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Yes, you can install a permanent OTDR meter on the fiber. <br>
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Exfo used to have them but a very cost effective solution which we have been selling for years is the Adva ALM.
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You can even monitor the actual customer fiber, since it uses wavelength 1650nm which does not interfere with Grey / CWDM / DWDM signals.
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Up to 64 fibers per unit, with a maximum distance of 160km and it can even monitor PON networks behind the splitters.
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The best part for troubleshooting is that it integrates with existing GIS systems which show you the location of the suspected cut on a map.
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 8:25 PM Rod Beck < rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com > wrote:
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My colleague and I may be running a new dark fiber network in the Northeast. <br>
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We need an outsourced NOC to monitor for fiber cuts and serve as a contact point for customers.
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Am I wrong in believing that there should be a way of lighting a single pair in the cable and then monitoring it for signal disruption? It is not a perfect solution, but arguably better than learning that the cable has been damaged from an irate customer.
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