<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>That is a big problem. In terms of their UniFi product line, there are no reasonable alternatives.<div><br></div><div>Upper management is the biggest problem. They have severe ADD.</div><div><br></div><div>A ton of companies have these kinds of issues. They just plain don't hire enough people in the right areas to really excel.</div><div><div><br><div><span name="x"></span><br style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline !important;float:none">-----</span><br style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new 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All the other vendors seem to want to ram cloud-management down your throat which I absolutely do not want. My network, my control, not under the auspices of someone else’s magic cloud.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On 25 May 2020, at 21:21, Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" class="" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class="">The company has mostly fallen apart. 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Finding a pattern I don't like.<div class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Joe Klein<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="">"inveniet viam, aut faciet"</span><font face="times new roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-style: italic;" class=""><sup class=""><span class=""> --- </span></sup></span>Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II, Scene 1)<br class=""></font><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, "Segoe UI", "Roboto Oxygen-Sans", Ubuntu, Cantarell, "“Fira Sans”", "“Droid Sans”", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3", "Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro", メイリオ, Meiryo, "ＭＳ Ｐゴシック", Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; letter-spacing: -0.4px;" class="">"I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>