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style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>nanog@nanog.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Switch for SFP+<br><br>
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<font face="Arial">It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to
achieve the goal I am looking for.<br>
Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.<br>
If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.<br>
Thanks a lot.</font><br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison
escribió:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering
instead. This guarantees hardware offloading.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or
2xx lines.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">/interface
bonding<br>
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">/interface bridge</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">/interface bridge port</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">/interface bridge vlan</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1
vlan-ids=201</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">Thanks</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org" target="_blank"><nanog-bounces@nanog.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Mauro Gasparini<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Switch for SFP+</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This works
well on my CRSs:<br>
<br>
/interface bonding<br>
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3<br>
<br>
/interface bridge port<br>
add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet<br>
add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1<br>
<br>
But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of
bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes:<br>
<br>
/interface vlan<br>
add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1<br>
add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet<br>
<br>
/interface bridge port<br>
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen<br>
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding" target="_blank">https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Mauro
Gasparini"
<a href="mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mjgasparini@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Switch for SFP+<br>
<br>
Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with
routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan
trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3%
to more than 90%.<br>
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime,
because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of
the switch hardware as swOS would.<br>
<br>
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">El
15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:</span></p>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always
amazed at their features set, but...<br>
<br>
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt
too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is
possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli
and attain the desired results.<br>
<br>
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a
Extreme Network x650, x670... etc.</span></p>
<pre><span style="color:black">-----</span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Alain Hebert <a href="mailto:ahebert@pubnix.net" target="_blank">ahebert@pubnix.net</a> </span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">On
2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Have
you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I
don't like the OS, but the hardware does what
you want it to.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <a href="https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!" target="_blank">https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If
necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and
get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the
factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade,
Juniper, Extreme, etc.</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Even the
top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">-Adam</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> NANOG
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on behalf of Mauro Gasparini
<a href="mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mjgasparini@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mehmet Akcin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Switch for SFP+</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">
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you. The problem is that to get a price lower
than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"></span></p>
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Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably
overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay</span></p>
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Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro
Gasparini <<a href="mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com" target="_blank">mjgasparini@gmail.com</a>>
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afternoon.<br>
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I'm looking for a switch with the
following capabilities:<br>
. transport for more than 20 gbps<br>
. link aggregation LACP<br>
. slots for SFP+<br>
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through
the link aggregation.<br>
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And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D
2000 and is compatible with <br>
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules
that are not from the vendor itself <br>
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo,
OEMs).<br>
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If any of you have a good experience
with a device that meets these <br>
requirements (which are minimal with the
exception of price and <br>
compatibility) ?<br>
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Regards.<br>
Mauro Gasparini</span></p>
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+1-424-298-1903</span></p>
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