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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Mike Hammett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog@nanog.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Switch for SFP+<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Mauro Gasparini" <<a href="mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com">mjgasparini@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Switch for SFP+<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking for.<br>
Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.<br>
If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.<br>
Thanks a lot.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">/interface bonding<br>
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">/interface bridge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">/interface bridge port<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">/interface bridge vlan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;letter-spacing:-.1pt;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Travis</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> NANOG
<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org" target="_blank"><nanog-bounces@nanog.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mauro Gasparini<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Switch for SFP+<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">This works well on my CRSs:<br>
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/interface bonding<br>
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3<br>
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/interface bridge port<br>
add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet<br>
add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1<br>
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But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes:<br>
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/interface vlan<br>
add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1<br>
add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet<br>
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/interface bridge port<br>
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen<br>
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding" target="_blank">https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Mauro Gasparini"
<a href="mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mjgasparini@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Switch for SFP+<br>
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Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%.<br>
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...<br>
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    Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU.  However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.<br>
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    It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670...  etc.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Alain Hebert                                <a href="mailto:ahebert@pubnix.net" target="_blank">ahebert@pubnix.net</a>   <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">PubNIX Inc.        <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">50 boul. St-Charles<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Tel: 514-990-5911  <a href="http://www.pubnix.net" target="_blank">http://www.pubnix.net</a>    Fax: 514-990-9443<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches?  I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">    <a href="https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!" target="_blank">https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">-Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org" target="_blank"><nanog-bounces@nanog.org></a> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini
<a href="mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mjgasparini@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mehmet Akcin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Switch for SFP+</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">
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I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:<br>
. transport for more than 20 gbps<br>
. link aggregation LACP<br>
. slots for SFP+<br>
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.<br>
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And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with <br>
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself <br>
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).<br>
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If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these <br>
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and <br>
compatibility) ?<br>
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Regards.<br>
Mauro Gasparini</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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+1-424-298-1903</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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