<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Honestly, sometimes I include the "Three-Hundred Sixty-Five and a Quarter” on conference calls.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Side note: What you describe is in-fact part of how languages change and evolve. (over time, sufficiently common incorrect use becomes. well. correct.)<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:07 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <<a href="mailto:lists@packetflux.com" class="">lists@packetflux.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sorry I can't resist...<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you're going for accuracy, does 24x365 mean you close one day this year? Or should you actually be saying 24x365.25, or even more accurately 24x365.2425 (but still not exact).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Oh wait, we missed the leap seconds in there, which there isn't any real way to average out since they occur at semi-random intervals. So I don't know what we should adjust the 24 to...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just look at 24x7x365 as shorthand for "24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year", which is a common saying meaning always open. It isn't a mathematical formula. It doesn't have to be exact or make mathematical sense. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are lots of things that if you think about too hard they don't make sense. The one this week I thought about was "hunger benefit". Does that mean we're raising money to increase hunger? One could go on and on trying to correct logical inconsistencies in our use of language. It's fun on occasion to point them out, but saying that something has to be corrected just because it doesn't make logical or mathematical sense just seems as sill as some of the phrases that we laugh about being logically inconsistent.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 2:35 AM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">24x7 is way more common, but does leave ambiguity as to holiday coverage. (there are some 24x7 businesses that close for holidays).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">24x7x365 is on the rise as a way to specify that you’re open holidays too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">End of the day, I’m not sure it matters which one you use.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Likely any Google search for 24x7 would return the superset {24x7,24x7x365} while a search for 24x7x365 would return the subset {24x7x365}.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">IANASEOE, but I suspect that in terms of SEO and general search, you’re probably better off with 24x7x365.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 16, 2020, at 01:25 , Mike Hale <<a href="mailto:eyeronic.design@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">eyeronic.design@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">No. 24x7x365 is fine. Sheesh.</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 10:10 PM Ben Cannon <<a href="mailto:ben@6by7.net" target="_blank" class="">ben@6by7.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class="">So I’m taking this thread for a total test-drive and we’re going down this random ally...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I call our NOC “24x7x365” I hear that in my head as “twenty-four (hour) - BY - Seven (days a week) - BY - 365 (days a year, indicating we don’t close on any holidays).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is that really not a thing? I swear I’ve been hearing it as a term of art in the industry for 20 years. Google has 1.42m results for 24x7x365 - but 72mil for 24x7.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Should I change my website or what?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for indulging me :)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Ben.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Rich Kulawiec <<a href="mailto:rsk@gsp.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">rsk@gsp.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Your home page says that you have 24x7x365 support.<br class=""><br class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>(Which is wrong, by the way. It's either 24x7 or 24x365<br class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>or maybe 24x7x52 depending on what you're trying to express.<br class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>There is no such thing as 24x7x365. But let's press on:)<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">(Rich’s excellent critique deleted for brevity)<br class=""></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">---rsk<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></blockquote></div>
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