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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/Mar/20 05:51, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">How do you see that happening? Are people going to stop wanting to watch live,
or are teams going to somehow play asynchronously (e.g. Lakers vs. Celtics,
the Lakers play on November 5 at 6 PM and the Celtics play on November 8
at 11 AM)?
Further, it would be more accurate to say that events with large live audiences
are the only thing propping up the “old economy” and sport is probably by far
the largest current application of live streaming.</pre>
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<font face="Tahoma">I'll admit, this is not an easy one to solve.<br>
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The problem you have is the kids who are driving the new economy
have little to no interest in live sport. Old timers like
ourselves still like watching live sport, and even better, betting
on it for those who consider that an extra sport of sport. The
kids are not into all of that, and despite the growth of online
sporting conventions (eSports, Fortnite tournaments, Twitch
binging, e.t.c.), it doesn't even register as a rounding-error on
the balance sheets of the traditional sports establishment. To you
pysch. majors, that means, "We - the old guard - don't care about
any of that :-)".<br>
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Linear TV networks know that most homes moving to VoD would prefer
a sports-only package, so that they can pick that up from them and
keep movies and series on VoD. However, the linear TV networks are
leveraging that to keep pushing their traditional bouquets because
then they have the justification to "charge that little bit extra"
in order to deliver all the other content that sits side-by-side
with sports.<br>
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As I've been saying before, the Coronavirus has amplified and
accelerated the realization that the old economy will not survive
in this new digital era. As this applies to sport, Formula One
have cancelled a heap of grand prix weekends this season, but this
has forced them to, for the first time, hold eSports options, just
this week:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.grandprix247.com/2020/03/23/zhou-wins-virtual-bahrain-grand-prix/">https://www.grandprix247.com/2020/03/23/zhou-wins-virtual-bahrain-grand-prix/</a><br>
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Is that a sign of things to come, yes and no. "No" in that there
is simply too much money with the traditional setup to put aside
for the bigger picture, but "Yes" in that during times like these,
there might be way for folk to get their fix, unless you are a
purist. But even then, how long can you hold out for if another
pandemic in 20 years loses us 2 whole years?<br>
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One could speak of hybrid solutions where you watch linear TV, but
then engage with the match/program online. In 2013, I saw a number
of equipment vendors developing walled-garden solutions around
this, and it was great. But as we all know, the kids gravitate to
simpler solutions that offer obvious value, are downloadable from
a public market store, and cost zero. So now, watching anything on
TV means engaging via Twitter, not via some walled-garden app only
open to a few, ships with a price tag, and crashes more than it is
usable.<br>
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In South Africa, our incumbent pay-TV provider is trialing
offering some pre-dated sports content (amongst other channels)
available for free (and only) online, as streamed live TV:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/378021/dstv-offers-free-channels-and-shows-for-south-africans-while-staying-at-home">http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/378021/dstv-offers-free-channels-and-shows-for-south-africans-while-staying-at-home</a><br>
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This is both on the back of the Coronavirus, but also to trial
options to satisfy those who don't want all the channels they
offer, but just sports.<br>
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Where all the VoD providers are letting linear TV networks keep
running away with this model is by all of them chasing us to give
them our US$10/month for what they feel is the killer VoD service
in the world. As I've mentioned before on this list, consumer
fatigue due to the "yet-another-new-VoD-provider-today" syndrome
is growing. For as long as each VoD provider is competing for our
business, linear TV will remain relevant because it's easier and
cheaper for a consumer to give a linear TV provider one cheque
that covers a variety of channels, vs. paying US$10/month for
every VoD provider. And now major sports events and/or channels
are also in the VoD game, each of them also charging US$10/month.
It starts to add up pretty quick, and in the end, the case for
linear TV is only strengthened.<br>
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If linear TV is going to enter the new economy (especially to hit
the kids), current VoD services are going to have to figure out
how to aggregate. And if they don't, we all know who the one left
standing is more likely to be :-).<br>
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So let's keep watching this "linear TV for sports" thing develop.
I hope to provide better insight in about a year :-).<br>
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Remember, this discussion started with a question about live-streaming church
services.
In the “new normal” of a COVID lockdown world, with the huge increase in
teleconferencing, etc. there may well be additional audiences for many-to-many
multicast that aren’t currently implemented.
IMO, the only sane way to do this also helps solve the v4/v6 conferencing question.
Local Aggregation Points (LAPs) are anycast customer terminations. Backbone between
LAPs supports IPv6-only and IPv6 multicast (intra-domain only). LAPs are not sharing
routing table space with backbone routers. Likely some tunnel mechanism is used to
link LAPs to each other to shield backbone routers from multicast state information.
Each “session” (whether an individual chat, group chat, etc.) gets a unique IPv6
multicast group. Each LAP with at least one user logged into a given session will
join that multicast group across the backbone. Users connects to LAPs via unicast.
If voice, video, slide, chat streams need to be separated, use different port numbers
to do that.</pre>
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<font face="Tahoma">Perhaps I'm biased, but while there might be a
model, I don't think Multicast is the tool to drive it.<br>
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Mark.</font><br>
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