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<p class="MsoNormal">In Canada the CRTC really needs to get on Canadian ISPs about peering very liberally at IXs in each province. I know of one major institution right now that would have a major work from home issue resolved if one big ISP would peer with
one big tier 1 in the IX they are both located at in the same province. Instead traffic needs to flow across the country or to the USA to get back to the same city.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Matthew Petach<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 19, 2020 4:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> NANOG <nanog@nanog.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> COVID-19 vs. peering wars<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM Mike Bolitho <<a href="mailto:mikebolitho@gmail.com">mikebolitho@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The repair or returning to service of one or more telecommunications services that have experienced a service outage or
<i>are unusable for <u>any reason</u></i>, including a damaged or impaired telecommunications facility. Such repair or returning to service may be done by patching, rerouting, substitution of component parts or pathways, and other means, as determined necessary
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My understanding, and what we did while I worked for a Tier I ISP, was that even for degraded circuits we had to do everything in our power to restore to full operations. If capacity is an issue
and causes TSP coded DIA circuits to be unusable then that falls under the "any reason" clause of that line. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you're going to bang that drum, the place you're going to get the most buck-for-your-bang is using it to force better cooperation between ISPs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It appears that baking cakes was not sufficient to get recalcitrant players to work together.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mpetach/4031195041">https://www.flickr.com/photos/mpetach/4031195041</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps a global pandemic may be sufficient to have government begin to *compel* networks to interconnect at locations at which they share common peering infrastructure?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you're worried about congestion and performance, that would be the place to start pushing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">staying safely at home away from the flame-fest that may ensue from this. ^_^;<o:p></o:p></p>
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