<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 17, 2020, at 02:41 , Alexandre Petrescu <<a href="mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com" class="">alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">This simply isn’t true…<br class=""><br class="">Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who<br class="">specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">YEs listen to them.<br class=""><br class="">This morning they say: everyone can get it, there is no age or pre-conditio.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>They’ve always said “everyone can get it, there’s no age or pre-condition”.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The age and pre-existing condition thing comes into play in defining the probability that you will get a severe case of it. That advice hasn’t changed.</div><div><br class=""><div><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html" class="">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div><div class="syndicate" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><h1 id="content" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.75rem; font-weight: 500; line-height: 1.3; font-size: 2.125rem; font-family: Merriweather, serif; margin-top: 1rem !important;" class="">If You Are at Higher Risk</h1></div><div class="syndicate" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="row " style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; margin-right: -15px; margin-left: -15px; font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="col-md-12" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: relative; width: 1015px; padding-right: 15px; padding-left: 15px; flex: 0 0 100%; max-width: 100%;"><div class="card mb-3" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: relative; display: flex; flex-direction: column; min-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-clip: border-box; border: 1px solid rgb(224, 224, 224); border-top-left-radius: 0.25rem; border-top-right-radius: 0.25rem; border-bottom-right-radius: 0.25rem; border-bottom-left-radius: 0.25rem; margin-bottom: 1rem !important;"><div class="card-body bg-amber-t" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; min-height: 1px; padding: 1rem; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179) !important;"><div class="row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; margin-right: -15px; margin-left: -15px;"><div class="pt-2 card-icon" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding: 1rem;"><span class="sr-only" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: absolute; width: 1px; height: 1px; padding: 0px; margin: -1px; overflow: hidden; clip: rect(0px, 0px, 0px, 0px); white-space: nowrap; border: 0px;">alert icon</span><span class="fi fill-amber-p cdc-icon-alert_02 icon x48" aria-hidden="true" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: relative; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; fill: rgb(251, 171, 24) !important;"></span></div><div class="col" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: relative; width: 896.90625px; padding-right: 15px; padding-left: 15px; flex-basis: 0px; flex-grow: 1; max-width: 100%;"><div class="text-left mb-3 h4 card-title" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.3; font-size: 1.375rem; margin-top: 0px;">Who is at higher risk?</div><div class="pb-3 vc_empty_space col-12" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: relative; width: 866.90625px; padding-right: 15px; padding-left: 15px; flex: 0 0 100%; max-width: 100%; padding-bottom: 1rem !important;">Early information out of China, where COVID-19 first started, shows that some people are at higher risk of getting very sick from this illness. This includes:</div><ul class="false" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box;" class="">Older adults</span></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box;" class="">People who have serious chronic medical conditions</span> like:<ul class="false" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">Heart disease</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">Diabetes</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">Lung disease</li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">That''s it. They dont know, and worse they dont say they dont know.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Actually, they do say they don’t know (about the things they don’t know). For example:</div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Ftransmission.html" class="">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Ftransmission.html</a></div><div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class="">COVID-19 is a new disease and </span><span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px;" class="">we are still learning how it spreads</span><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class="">, the severity of illness it causes, and to what extent it may spread in the United States.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">I am an engineer, I am not medical professional, my question is: is there a device to detect the virus with the crown in the air and light up a led?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>No… No such device exists for Corona Virus at this time. Such a device is not easily developed.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">(we do have such devices for VOC, for CO2, PM2, PM10 pollution, and many other things in the air; but about virus with a rcown?)<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Detecting a virus in the air is much more complicated than detecting VOC, CO2, PM2.5 (presumably what you meant by PM2), or PM10.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>PM2.5 and PM10 are a simple size test. CO2 is a molecule that is easy to detect through a simple electrochemical process. VOC are</div><div>a class of hydrocarbons that all share certain chemical properties which are easily detected through a simple electrochemical process.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>It should also be noted that such devices even for the chemicals they can detect require a certain concentration of that chemical.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>On the other hand, a single airborne virion can be enough to cause a widespread epidemic. If that single virion is “lucky” enough to find</div><div>a compatible host cell and get the cell to start replicating it, then you can quickly get lots more copies of that virion which then seek out</div><div>additional host cells and additional hosts to make even more, and so on.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Viruses are not. Viruses are very tiny intracellular parasites where very subtle chemical differences cause massively different effects on humans.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>They consist of an RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective virus-coded protein coat. More information here: <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8174/" class="">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8174/</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Currently, the best we can do is a test to detect coronavirus infection in a person after they are infected and symptomatic.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>So for now, stay indoors with your family and if you’ve got a sick sense of humor like I do, play one or more of the Pandemic board games (if you happen to own them).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Alex<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">The information on the CDC and WHO websites remains the primary source<br class="">of trustworthy information. It may be<br class="">incomplete, but if someone is contradicting something there, they’re<br class="">very likely to be wrong.<br class=""><br class="">OTOH, anyone selling “survive COVID” or “cure COVID” etc. is<br class="">completely untrustworthy and guaranteed to be lying to<br class="">you in order to sell a product. Despicable, but common place.<br class=""><br class="">There’s no authoritative way to get false information off the<br class="">internet, so we have to combat it as best we can with good<br class="">information and education. Even in my own household, this is a<br class="">constant battle as my GF continues to bring home<br class="">odd superstitious rumors and embellishments from a variety of<br class="">inaccurate sources and I constantly have to correct her<br class="">perspective.<br class=""><br class="">For up to date local information, check with the local public health<br class="">authority in your jurisdiction. In the US, that will usually<br class="">be your county public health agency. In some cases, individual<br class="">municipalities also have public health departments.<br class=""></blockquote>It's the price we pay for hyper-connectedness (not trying to coin a<br class="">phrase, hehe).<br class=""><br class="">Everybody (especially the kids) lives on their device 99% of the time.<br class="">If you're not on their device, you are not relevant to them.<br class=""><br class="">When was the last time you bought a newspaper? How many times do your<br class="">kids watch the news, either on TV or their device? But they are all over<br class="">WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter, SnapChat, WeChat, et al. And even if they<br class="">have the "News" app on their phone, they probably have never opened it.<br class="">If they opened it, they didn't find value in it.<br class=""><br class="">On average, the we (and the kids) will give your app two tries; if we<br class="">don't like it, you're out - which explains why we all have 3,000 apps on<br class="">our phones, but only use 2 or 3 of them most consistently.<br class=""><br class="">Whoever wants to get professional and verified information out (to the<br class="">kids who live on their devices) needs to find a way to do so in a manner<br class="">we find relevant, otherwise we'll simply keep trading mis-information<br class="">for whatever reason we feel gives us value.<br class=""><br class="">Mark.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>