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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 17/03/2020 à 19:26, Owen DeLong a
      écrit :<br>
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          <div class="">On Mar 17, 2020, at 02:41 , Alexandre Petrescu
            <<a href="mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:</div>
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              <blockquote type="cite" class="">On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen
                DeLong wrote:<br class="">
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                <blockquote type="cite" class="">This simply isn’t true…<br
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                  Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially
                  those who<br class="">
                  specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology.<br
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              YEs listen to them.<br class="">
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              This morning they say: everyone can get it, there is no
              age or pre-conditio.<br class="">
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        They’ve always said “everyone can get it, there’s no age or
        pre-condition”.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>The age and pre-existing condition thing comes into play in
        defining the probability that you will get a severe case of it.
        That advice hasn’t changed.</div>
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    <p>Owen, we differ.</p>
    <p>That advice changed.</p>
    <p>I am not an immunologist, not a doctor of medicine, not medical.</p>
    <p>I am not an official channel of information.<br>
    </p>
    <p>But that advice changed here: anyone can get it, anyone can get
      under respiratory device because of it.</p>
    <p>--------------</p>
    <p>Also,<br>
    </p>
    <p>The good thing I heard today is China agency of press, saying
      they might have treatment, some positive sign, not fully positive,
      just some positive.</p>
    <p>Alex<br>
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      <div><br class="">
        <div><a
            href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html"
            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html</a></div>
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            <h1 id="content" style="box-sizing: border-box;
              margin-bottom: 0.75rem; font-weight: 500; line-height:
              1.3; font-size: 2.125rem; font-family: Merriweather,
              serif; margin-top: 1rem !important;" class="">If You Are
              at Higher Risk</h1>
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              Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px;">
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                  position: relative; display: flex; flex-direction:
                  column; min-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;
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                  border-bottom-left-radius: 0.25rem; margin-bottom:
                  1rem !important;">
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                    border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; min-height: 1px;
                    padding: 1rem; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179)
                    !important;">
                    <div class="row" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                      display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; margin-right:
                      -15px; margin-left: -15px;">
                      <div class="pt-2 card-icon" style="box-sizing:
                        border-box; padding: 1rem;"><span
                          class="sr-only" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                          position: absolute; width: 1px; height: 1px;
                          padding: 0px; margin: -1px; overflow: hidden;
                          clip: rect(0px, 0px, 0px, 0px); white-space:
                          nowrap; border: 0px;">alert icon</span><span
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                          x48" aria-hidden="true" style="box-sizing:
                          border-box; position: relative; display:
                          inline-block; vertical-align: middle; fill:
                          rgb(251, 171, 24) !important;"></span></div>
                      <div class="col" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                        position: relative; width: 896.90625px;
                        padding-right: 15px; padding-left: 15px;
                        flex-basis: 0px; flex-grow: 1; max-width: 100%;">
                        <div class="text-left mb-3 h4 card-title"
                          style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom:
                          0px; line-height: 1.3; font-size: 1.375rem;
                          margin-top: 0px;">Who is at higher risk?</div>
                        <div class="pb-3 vc_empty_space col-12"
                          style="box-sizing: border-box; position:
                          relative; width: 866.90625px; padding-right:
                          15px; padding-left: 15px; flex: 0 0 100%;
                          max-width: 100%; padding-bottom: 1rem
                          !important;">Early information out of China,
                          where COVID-19 first started, shows that some
                          people are at higher risk of getting very sick
                          from this illness. This includes:</div>
                        <ul class="false" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                          margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem;">
                          <li style="box-sizing: border-box;
                            margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class=""><span
                              style="box-sizing: border-box;" class="">Older
                              adults</span></li>
                          <li style="box-sizing: border-box;
                            margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class=""><span
                              style="box-sizing: border-box;" class="">People
                              who have serious chronic medical
                              conditions</span> like:
                            <ul class="false" style="box-sizing:
                              border-box; margin-top: 0px;
                              margin-bottom: 0px;">
                              <li style="box-sizing: border-box;
                                margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">Heart
                                disease</li>
                              <li style="box-sizing: border-box;
                                margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">Diabetes</li>
                            </ul>
                          </li>
                        </ul>
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              Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px;">
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                  position: relative; display: flex; flex-direction:
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                  1rem !important;">
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                    border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; min-height: 1px;
                    padding: 1rem; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179)
                    !important;">
                    <div class="row" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                      display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; margin-right:
                      -15px; margin-left: -15px;">
                      <div class="col" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                        position: relative; width: 896.90625px;
                        padding-right: 15px; padding-left: 15px;
                        flex-basis: 0px; flex-grow: 1; max-width: 100%;">
                        <ul class="false" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                          margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem;">
                          <li style="box-sizing: border-box;
                            margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">
                            <ul class="false" style="box-sizing:
                              border-box; margin-top: 0px;
                              margin-bottom: 0px;">
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                                margin-bottom: 0.4rem;" class="">Lung
                                disease</li>
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    <p>Alex<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:8073D29A-D45F-412F-A52A-89B3F56F3225@delong.com">
      <div>
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            <div class="">That''s it.  They dont know, and worse they
              dont say they dont know.<br class="">
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        </div>
        Actually, they do say they don’t know (about the things they
        don’t know). For example:</div>
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      </div>
      <div><a
href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Ftransmission.html"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Ftransmission.html</a></div>
      <div>
        <div><br class="">
        </div>
        <div><br class="">
        </div>
        <div><span style="font-family: "Open Sans",
            apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI",
            "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size:
            17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class="">COVID-19
            is a new disease and </span><span style="box-sizing:
            border-box; font-family: "Open Sans",
            apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI",
            "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size:
            17px;" class="">we are still learning how it spreads</span><span
            style="font-family: "Open Sans", apple-system,
            blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI", "Helvetica
            Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px;
            background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class="">, the
            severity of illness it causes, and to what extent it may
            spread in the United States.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-family: "Open Sans",
            apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI",
            "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size:
            17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class=""><br
              class="">
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-family: "Open Sans",
            apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, "Segoe UI",
            "Helvetica Neue", arial, sans-serif; font-size:
            17px; background-color: rgb(255, 236, 179);" class=""><br
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              I am an engineer, I am not medical professional, my
              question is: is there a device to detect the virus with
              the crown in the air and light up a led?<br class="">
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br class="">
        </div>
        No… No such device exists for Corona Virus at this time. Such a
        device is not easily developed.</div>
      <div><br class="">
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          <div class="">
            <div class="">(we do have such devices for VOC, for CO2,
              PM2, PM10 pollution, and many other things in the air; but
              about virus with a rcown?)<br class="">
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br class="">
        </div>
        Detecting a virus in the air is much more complicated than
        detecting VOC, CO2, PM2.5 (presumably what you meant by PM2), or
        PM10.</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>PM2.5 and PM10 are a simple size test. CO2 is a molecule that
        is easy to detect through a simple electrochemical process. VOC
        are</div>
      <div>a class of hydrocarbons that all share certain chemical
        properties which are easily detected through a simple
        electrochemical process.</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>It should also be noted that such devices even for the
        chemicals they can detect require a certain concentration of
        that chemical.</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>On the other hand, a single airborne virion can be enough to
        cause a widespread epidemic. If that single virion is “lucky”
        enough to find</div>
      <div>a compatible host cell and get the cell to start replicating
        it, then you can quickly get lots more copies of that virion
        which then seek out</div>
      <div>additional host cells and additional hosts to make even more,
        and so on.</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>Viruses are not. Viruses are very tiny intracellular
        parasites where very subtle chemical differences cause massively
        different effects on humans.</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>They consist of an RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a
        protective virus-coded protein coat. More information here: <a
          href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8174/" class=""
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8174/</a></div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>Currently, the best we can do is a test to detect coronavirus
        infection in a person after they are infected and symptomatic.</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>So for now, stay indoors with your family and if you’ve got a
        sick sense of humor like I do, play one or more of the Pandemic
        board games (if you happen to own them).</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div>Owen</div>
      <div><br class="">
      </div>
      <div><br class="">
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          <div class="">
            <div class=""><br class="">
              Alex<br class="">
              <br class="">
              <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                <blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">
                  The information on the CDC and WHO websites remains
                  the primary source<br class="">
                  of trustworthy information. It may be<br class="">
                  incomplete, but if someone is contradicting something
                  there, they’re<br class="">
                  very likely to be wrong.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  OTOH, anyone selling “survive COVID” or “cure COVID”
                  etc. is<br class="">
                  completely untrustworthy and guaranteed to be lying to<br
                    class="">
                  you in order to sell a product. Despicable, but common
                  place.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  There’s no authoritative way to get false information
                  off the<br class="">
                  internet, so we have to combat it as best we can with
                  good<br class="">
                  information and education. Even in my own household,
                  this is a<br class="">
                  constant battle as my GF continues to bring home<br
                    class="">
                  odd superstitious rumors and embellishments from a
                  variety of<br class="">
                  inaccurate sources and I constantly have to correct
                  her<br class="">
                  perspective.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  For up to date local information, check with the local
                  public health<br class="">
                  authority in your jurisdiction. In the US, that will
                  usually<br class="">
                  be your county public health agency. In some cases,
                  individual<br class="">
                  municipalities also have public health departments.<br
                    class="">
                </blockquote>
                It's the price we pay for hyper-connectedness (not
                trying to coin a<br class="">
                phrase, hehe).<br class="">
                <br class="">
                Everybody (especially the kids) lives on their device
                99% of the time.<br class="">
                If you're not on their device, you are not relevant to
                them.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                When was the last time you bought a newspaper? How many
                times do your<br class="">
                kids watch the news, either on TV or their device? But
                they are all over<br class="">
                WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter, SnapChat, WeChat, et al.
                And even if they<br class="">
                have the "News" app on their phone, they probably have
                never opened it.<br class="">
                If they opened it, they didn't find value in it.<br
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                On average, the we (and the kids) will give your app two
                tries; if we<br class="">
                don't like it, you're out - which explains why we all
                have 3,000 apps on<br class="">
                our phones, but only use 2 or 3 of them most
                consistently.<br class="">
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                Whoever wants to get professional and verified
                information out (to the<br class="">
                kids who live on their devices) needs to find a way to
                do so in a manner<br class="">
                we find relevant, otherwise we'll simply keep trading
                mis-information<br class="">
                for whatever reason we feel gives us value.<br class="">
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                Mark.<br class="">
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