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    If by targeting DDoSes you mean rate limiting all UDP (because some
    UDP is bad), then I would expect that policy to be published on a
    provider's website so that folks using UDP would at least have the
    option to research and know this info before signing up or agreeing
    to a service commitment. Similarly, application developers could
    point to a provider's policy when designing their applications or
    assisting users. Even if Net Neutrality is dead, I believe the
    "Restoring Internet Freedom" order is still a thing in the US.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/19/2020 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett
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        10pt; color: #000000">Net Neutrality likely wouldn't have
        impacted this at all. AT&T isn't targeting QUIC, they're
        targeting DDoSes.<br>
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style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From:
          </b>"Brian J. Murrell" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brian@interlinx.bc.ca"><brian@interlinx.bc.ca></a><br>
          <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:01:20 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T
          residential<br>
          <br>
          On Wed, 2020-02-19 at 13:54 -0600, Blake Hudson wrote:<br>
          > <br>
          > Isn't this exactly why Net Neutrality is a thing:<br>
          <br>
          Isn't it a "dead" thing in the USofA?<br>
          <br>
          > So that people (or <br>
          > companies) are free to develop new applications or
          enhance existing<br>
          > ones <br>
          > without running into a quagmire of different policies
          implemented by<br>
          > any <br>
          > number of different networks between the application
          developer and<br>
          > the <br>
          > application's users?<br>
          <br>
          Yes, this is a very prominent reason for Net Neutrality.  Too
          bad the<br>
          FCC killed that out from under the people and companies that
          would<br>
          utilize it to develop new applications.<br>
          <br>
          Cheers,<br>
          b.<br>
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