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<p>64k vs 56k was the result of changing T1 framing from SF to ESF.
SF utilized AMI(Alt Mark Inversion) required for copper T1 lines
between Central Offices. SF(Super Frame) robbed bits for
signalling and limited each voice channel to 56k. Conversion to
fiber between TELCO offices allowed the conversion of SF to ESF,
which dropped the AMI requirement and the resultant bit robbing,
allowing 64k throughput per voice channel.</p>
<p>In other words, the limitation was in the inter-office T1's and
the conversion of to fiber between TELCO offices cleared that
hurdle.</p>
<p>Lyle Giese</p>
<p>LCR Computer Services, Inc.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The hardware support was 2B+D but you could definitely just use a single B. 56k vs 64k depended on where you where is the world and which style of ISDN the telco offered.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 27 Jan 2020, at 22:32, Bryan Holloway <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bryan@shout.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><bryan@shout.net></a> wrote:
I didn't think one could get a single 'B' channel over ISDN ... but I could be mistaken.
In my early ISP days, ISDN was 2 x 64k (full-rate) 'B' channels and a 16k 'D' channel for signaling.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 1/26/20 5:58 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
IIRC that 64k was in fact 56k with 8k for overhead.
I had one, and it would kick in a second channel if you pushed it, for a whopping 112k. Metered, came out to about $500/mo.
Joly
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ben Cannon <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ben@6by7.net" moz-do-not-send="true">ben@6by7.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ben@6by7.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:ben@6by7.net></a>> wrote:
I started what became 6x7 with a 64k ISDN line. And 9600 baud modems…
in ’93 or so. (I was a child, in Jr High…)
-Ben.
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CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> On Jan 24, 2020, at 3:21 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bzs@theworld.com" moz-do-not-send="true">bzs@theworld.com</a>
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On January 24, 2020 at 08:55 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">aaron1@gvtc.com</a>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> Thanks Jared, When I reminisce with my boss he reminds me that
this telco/ISP here initially started with a 56kbps internet
uplink , lol
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> Point of History:
When we, The World, first began allowing the general public onto the
internet in October 1989 we actually had a (mildly shared*) T1
(1.544mbps) UUNET link. So not so bad for the time. Dial-up customers
shared a handful of 2400bps modems, we still have them.
* It was also fanned out of our office to a handful of Boston-area
customers who had 56kbps or 9600bps leased lines, not many.
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