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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Thanks Hugo, very interesting. Induced demand. Someone said recently… they’ve seen that no matter how much bandwidth you give a customer, they will eventually figure out how to use it. (whether they realize it or not… I guess it just happens)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>-Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hugo Slabbert<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tom Beecher<br><b>Cc:</b> NANOG list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>> This just follows the same rules as networks have always seemed to; If you build it, they will come, and you'll have to build more. :)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>:-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu., Jan. 23, 2020, 09:40 Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>I think this is a tribute to how we’ve built and upgraded networks for capacity and speed.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think it's spot on. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In years past it made more sense to distribute smaller , incremental patches. More work on the software side, but it was likely a better option than getting blasted on Twitter because "OMG I WANT TO PLAY AND MY DOWNLOAD IS TAKING 8 HOURS". <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This just follows the same rules as networks have always seemed to; If you build it, they will come, and you'll have to build more. :) <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:57 AM Jared Mauch <<a href="mailto:jared@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">jared@puck.nether.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>> On Jan 23, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Valdis Klētnieks <<a href="mailto:valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu" target="_blank">valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:13:15 +0100, Bryan Holloway said:<br>> <br>>> Game releases are hardly a new thing, but these last two events seem to<br>>> be almost an order of magnitude higher than what we're used to (at least<br>>> on our predominantly eyeball network.)<br>>> <br>>> Any thoughts from the community? We're taking steps to accommodate, but<br>>> from a capacity-planning perspective, this seems non-linear to me.<br>> <br>> Be prepared for an entire new world of hurt this holiday season. Sony has already<br>> confirmed that PS5 releases will ship on 100Gbyte blu-ray disks. Which means that<br>> download sizes will be comparable…<br><br>There’s also the “we will stream you all the data things” I keep hearing about like the<br>Consoles without discs or some other thing I can’t remember the name of.<br><br>I think this is a tribute to how we’ve built and upgraded networks for capacity and speed.<br><br>- Jared<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>