<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>"obvious reasons"<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Antonios Chariton" <daknob.mac@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:47:58 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Wikipedia drops support for old Android smartphones; mandates TLSv1.2 to read<br><br>Ignoring the obvious reasons why TLS is needed and HTTP should not be used, I guess people who want an HTTP version of Wikipedia that is read-only and knowingly insecure, censorable, modifiable, etc. can donate a few million dollars to the Wikimedia Foundation, before the tax year is over, for the engineers, infrastructure, and everything, and write a special note, and maybe Wikipedia may consider this.. Worst case, you just funded a secure encyclopedia and helped it grow in 2020 and years to come.. :)<br class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>Let’s see those receipts coming!</div><div><br class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On 31 Dec 2019, at 09:50, Ryan Hamel <<a href="mailto:ryan@rkhtech.org" class="" target="_blank">ryan@rkhtech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Just let the old platforms ride off into the sunset as originally planned like the SSL implementations in older JRE installs, XP, etc. You shouldn't be holding onto the past.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Ryan</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 12:41 AM Constantine A. Murenin <<a href="mailto:mureninc@gmail.com" class="" target="_blank">mureninc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 02:29, Matt Hoppes <<a href="mailto:mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Why do I need Wikipedia SSLed? I know the argument. But if it doesn’t work why not either let it fall back to 1.0 or to HTTP. <br class="">
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This seems like security for no valid reason. </blockquote></div><br clear="all" class=""></div>Exactly. I used the wording from their own page; but I think it's actually misleading. They're actually going out of their way to prevent users of "old Android smartphones" from accessing Wikipedia; if they did nothing, everyone would still be able to read happily over HTTP.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">C.<br class=""></div></div>
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